The guy released name of the wind in 2007 and said all three books of his trilogy are already finished, but then it took four years for the next book to come out in 2011 aaaaaaaaaand…nothing; no third book yet, still working on it, for…what, 14 years with no release date in sight? The fans started out by saying “what, you want him to release a half good book?! I’d rather he take his time and release it as perfectly as possible than rush it!”
They were saying that for a while, but even now they’ve lost hope. The reddit for the kingkiller chronicles is hilarious; people keep discussing their theories on the book and every now and again doomposting about how they’ll never see the third book. There are people who read the book in high school, then went on to graduate university, get a job, get married and get kids, and are still waiting on the third book.
At least GRRM released more than just two books (in a trilogy remember) and there was an actual TV show for people to watch while they waited; and at least the TV show ends roughly the same way the books will.
He had, as far as I know, completely stopped editing his last book over eight years ago, and based off what I know from acquaintances who actually know him, and some podcast episodes that featured him, he doesn’t really intend to start again.
As far as I can tell, there were three strong reasons, the first is that he absolutely hated the amount of pressure he was under from fans during the editing of the second book, due to the fact that he basically claims he made an amateur mistake by claiming that the trilogy was completed, which lead to his second thing which was growing to genuinely despise his fanbase and hate his fans, because Rothfuss is a pretty politically conscious guy and basically views these people in the same way we view the treat hogs, who in turn accuse him of using politics as a distraction from his writing (which is a neverending cycle), which then led to the third thing, which was that he grew to despise Kvothe as a person and as a kind of power-fantasy character that appeals to these fans (even if that isn’t actually why we enjoyed Kvothe).
I would be shocked if we actually get a third book that isn’t some sort of ‘fuck you’ to the fanbase, if at all. I mean, the even the short story was basically his way of telling us to ‘shut the fuck up’.
My understanding is that he is a kinda nice guy, unless you want something from him, then he can be abit of a dick, who made a best-selling fantasy novel on his first try without actually developing the writing chops to finish what he started and didn’t have the social graces or care to deal with the fallout of that.
He also did a fundraiser with a stretch goal to get a chapter released. He never released (wrote?) it despite exceeding the amount for fair bit. I won’t say scammed since it was for charity, but a “fuck you” version of the third book would be fitting given the track record.
Yeah, I didn’t follow that, but it definitely isn’t out of left field for him, given his hatred of the fanbase. It was probably his way of saying ‘oh you’ll all give this much just to hear one shitty chapter out of my shitty book, but not just out of actual charity? You all suck fuck you I’m just giving the money away.’
I hadn’t heard the claim that the trilogy was complete. My understanding is that he was writing these with his dad. Once his dad died he basically just stopped.
The part he did that was shitty was a kickstarter/donation drive for something with the promise that if a target was hit he’d read a chapter of book 3 and that played out like a grift.
I have Name of the Wind. Never read it, but it was highly recommended to me in college. I’m glad I never started if it’s still an incomplete story lol. Is it worth starting anyway or does it end in a cliffhanger like Game of Thrones?
It doesn’t end in a cliffhanger but…if you love it like others do you’ll be dying to know how the next book is supposed to; personally though I’m just curious, not more than that. There’s a hilariously cringey aspect but you might consider it a spoiler (though it’s not a plot spoiler):
The first one is still good as a stand alone if you go into it knowing the large scale stuff won’t get resolved, like a slice of life piece in a fantasy setting.
I’m torn on grrm. On one hand he is annoying nerds, on the other hand he is an annoying nerd and the whole “He’s not your bitch” stuff is hard to swallow give that he’s a multimillionaire who keeps lying to people.
Said by unproblematic progressive author Neil Gaiman! Lets be honest most ASOAIF book fans will likely hate TWOW because they hated DANCE & FEAST for being boring (they werent, maybe like 3 chapters but come on) and because their 37437878D chess subvert expectations theories they crafted will likely be false AND winds will likely have an strong focus on the FANTASY aspect and a lot of people hate Euron and think he will like die in the Battle of Blood, which is like the early chapters of winds lol
You hear that George RR Martin, you absolute fucking piece of shit??
I’ll give you a better one: Patrick Rothfuss
The guy released name of the wind in 2007 and said all three books of his trilogy are already finished, but then it took four years for the next book to come out in 2011 aaaaaaaaaand…nothing; no third book yet, still working on it, for…what, 14 years with no release date in sight? The fans started out by saying “what, you want him to release a half good book?! I’d rather he take his time and release it as perfectly as possible than rush it!”
They were saying that for a while, but even now they’ve lost hope. The reddit for the kingkiller chronicles is hilarious; people keep discussing their theories on the book and every now and again doomposting about how they’ll never see the third book. There are people who read the book in high school, then went on to graduate university, get a job, get married and get kids, and are still waiting on the third book.
At least GRRM released more than just two books (in a trilogy remember) and there was an actual TV show for people to watch while they waited; and at least the TV show ends roughly the same way the books will.
He had, as far as I know, completely stopped editing his last book over eight years ago, and based off what I know from acquaintances who actually know him, and some podcast episodes that featured him, he doesn’t really intend to start again.
As far as I can tell, there were three strong reasons, the first is that he absolutely hated the amount of pressure he was under from fans during the editing of the second book, due to the fact that he basically claims he made an amateur mistake by claiming that the trilogy was completed, which lead to his second thing which was growing to genuinely despise his fanbase and hate his fans, because Rothfuss is a pretty politically conscious guy and basically views these people in the same way we view the treat hogs, who in turn accuse him of using politics as a distraction from his writing (which is a neverending cycle), which then led to the third thing, which was that he grew to despise Kvothe as a person and as a kind of power-fantasy character that appeals to these fans (even if that isn’t actually why we enjoyed Kvothe).
I would be shocked if we actually get a third book that isn’t some sort of ‘fuck you’ to the fanbase, if at all. I mean, the even the short story was basically his way of telling us to ‘shut the fuck up’.
My understanding is that he is a kinda nice guy, unless you want something from him, then he can be abit of a dick, who made a best-selling fantasy novel on his first try without actually developing the writing chops to finish what he started and didn’t have the social graces or care to deal with the fallout of that.
He also did a fundraiser with a stretch goal to get a chapter released. He never released (wrote?) it despite exceeding the amount for fair bit. I won’t say scammed since it was for charity, but a “fuck you” version of the third book would be fitting given the track record.
Yeah, I didn’t follow that, but it definitely isn’t out of left field for him, given his hatred of the fanbase. It was probably his way of saying ‘oh you’ll all give this much just to hear one shitty chapter out of my shitty book, but not just out of actual charity? You all suck fuck you I’m just giving the money away.’
Okay but that isn’t comforting anyone
I hadn’t heard the claim that the trilogy was complete. My understanding is that he was writing these with his dad. Once his dad died he basically just stopped.
The part he did that was shitty was a kickstarter/donation drive for something with the promise that if a target was hit he’d read a chapter of book 3 and that played out like a grift.
I have Name of the Wind. Never read it, but it was highly recommended to me in college. I’m glad I never started if it’s still an incomplete story lol. Is it worth starting anyway or does it end in a cliffhanger like Game of Thrones?
It doesn’t end in a cliffhanger but…if you love it like others do you’ll be dying to know how the next book is supposed to; personally though I’m just curious, not more than that. There’s a hilariously cringey aspect but you might consider it a spoiler (though it’s not a plot spoiler):
spoiler
the main character becomes a wild sex machine
The first one is still good as a stand alone if you go into it knowing the large scale stuff won’t get resolved, like a slice of life piece in a fantasy setting.
That’s not too bad.
You basically know the end of the main narrative by the midway point of the book. It’s how the character got there that’s missing.
I’m torn on grrm. On one hand he is annoying nerds, on the other hand he is an annoying nerd and the whole “He’s not your bitch” stuff is hard to swallow give that he’s a multimillionaire who keeps lying to people.
Said by unproblematic progressive author Neil Gaiman! Lets be honest most ASOAIF book fans will likely hate TWOW because they hated DANCE & FEAST for being boring (they werent, maybe like 3 chapters but come on) and because their 37437878D chess subvert expectations theories they crafted will likely be false AND winds will likely have an strong focus on the FANTASY aspect and a lot of people hate Euron and think he will like die in the Battle of Blood, which is like the early chapters of winds lol
Young Griff fans will be eating good.
RonCon x Cersei and Jamie x Brienne shippers will eat good as well.