Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined the senator at rallies from Nebraska to California to tell how unprecedented wealth and income inequality are threatening democracy and working families.
Too bad he isn’t coming in to the south. I know the danger of a typical magat idiot doing something harmful is higher. What we need here is to rally those of us who will never vote republican again to gather and see we are not alone. By doing so we can show those on the fence that its okay to vote against the magats
I hope Bernie and AOC can pull something together, because the rest of our “opposition” has less backbone than a single spaghetti noodle thats been boiling for a full day.
I also hope neither of them are disappeared to El Salvador, but I’m worried that AOC is gonna get the Navalny treatment sooner or later. That’s not to say I think she should stop. That’s to say that I genuinely think she should get some non-fascist veterans and 2A supporters to act as her non-federally-affiliated physical security, if she can.
Where do you live where there’s a huge Progressive majority?
I live in New York City, which voted 90% against Trump. We also elected GOP Rudy Guiliani who ran a really racist campaign as Mayor.
Boston
Thanks for proving my point.
The day politicians disappear like that better be the day we Americans show we have a backbone.
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I’m curious what you’re trying to accomplish with this derisive comment
It is never not going to be funny, being derided for doing nothing by an internet comment.
She and Bernie are too useful as sheepdogs to be disappeared.
I understand where you’re coming from, but you’re not offering any solutions. Makes you look like a troll that acts in bad faith.
If you care enough to want people to listen to you, perhaps change your approach.
The only solution is dissolving the DNC and getting rid of ALL their politicians.
Get the fuck out of here with your art of war bullshit screen name. Pretending to be a Democrat, are we, shut the fuck up
I don’t doubt you are Democrat, Dems are vile and toxic that are the polar opposite of class unity.
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Unpack that one for me, champ. I know where you’re going, but I want you to be explicit with what you mean here. Spell it out. Go on record.
If you check some of these accounts, they do nothing but post anti-Bernie anti-AOC anti-Democrat brainrot, with literally no other personality, and frequently invoking conspiracy theory thought.
And they belong on the block list. Absolutely no value provided at all.
Always bring Democrats in too on articles criticizing Republicans. They’re a band with only one tune.
Yep. Which is why I tend to put them on the spot like I did above. And they almost never respond. And when they do, it’s usually kinda hilariously absurd.
Hilariously absurd and so disconnected it’s like they accidentally responded to the wrong post, like they are replying to things you didn’t say and ignoring everything you said. Like empty brainless shells with no souls.
I also think it’s funny when they try to dunk on me with chapter and verse from Marxist literature. Like… dude, I’ve read it too. And I’m also pretty sure you’re not supposed to treat it - or anything, really - that dogmatically. The real world, and humans, and social groups, and humanity, and geopolitics, and global commerce, is not that simple. Trying to boil it down to “how does this compare to Das Kapital” is reductive in the extreme, and is going to be counterproductive in pretty much all respects.
Yeah, even if they appropriate leftist talking points I have the impression they are coming from a place that is fundamentally far right, and their interest is in inciting horizonal hostility against solidarity.
Because Bernie is now part of the DNC brainrot. Talks about low wages while asking us to vote for the people keeping our wages low. Talks universal healthcare while demanding we support those that don’t support universal healthcare. Then there’s the whole Hasbara lie of Israel having the right to defend itself. He’s doing work on behalf of AIPAC without AIPAC money.
You’re definitely not shaking the allegations of having zero personality outside anti-Bernie brainrot.
They are nothing but sheepdogs herding disenfranchised sheep in the party, giving the illusion that if they stick around long enough they too will have a seat at the table, they are using these rallies as pressure release valves. Right now they talk about oligarchy as if their own party isn’t part of it. They talk about wealthy inequality while asking us to vote for the people enabling that wealth inequality. The DNC has had a sheepdog in every election since Reagan in years when they are not in power.
That’s why democrats keep losing elections to a carnival barker, their arrogant hubris is so dismissive of everything their doesn’t fit their echo chamber
People are down voting you because they can’t handle that you are objectively explaining what is happening. We probably have different viewpoints, however.
No, people are downvoting them because they’re being a cynical asshole about pretty much the only politicians in the country that clearly seem to give a fuck.
Pointing out their failures leaves a bad taste in their mouth so they lash out.
I am not a communist, and fear communism, but this person has a valid and logical point. Democrats are mostly unelectable because of their anti-gun agenda and when they occasionally win elections they don’t really change anything. Most of the Democrats in office are rich.
AOC and Bernie are still promoting this party of malaise and promises.
That being said, we’ve never seen AOC rule the country. I don’t vote for anti-gun politiicans but gosh, she sure is likable. And genuine.
If you want an idea of what I project AOC becoming, go watch Pelosi’s videos on C-SPAN when she was a jr house member in the 70s. They sound identical. No one is put into positions of power and influence within the party until they tow the party line.
No one is put into positions of power and influence within the party until they tow the party line.
That’s such a defeatist worldview. Did Trump tow the party line when he took it over?
Look, change is hard but not impossible, and there’s no better time for progressives to step up than this moment right now, when the Dems are at a historically low approval with the whole country. Everybody hates them for the spineless aristocratic piece of shit fascist collaborators they are.
They gotta go.
Now, whether this means the Dem party dissolves and a new one rises from the ashes, or it gets restructured but keeps the name and all the infrastructure, or it gets bullied into submission by the threat of a third party built by Bernie and AOC — all of that is abstract, procedural, immaterial. What’s material is that neoliberals must lose their power to progressives decisively, and the only way that happens is if:
a) people become disillusioned enough with neoliberals,
b) progressives are there for people to transfer their hope/faith onto them.
Both of these are happening to various degrees, especially the first one, but there’s still a long way to go for it to be decisive (polls still show Kamala Harris close to AOC in hypothetical presidential bid, but we need an enormous lead like Trump had in the GOP polls in 2022-2023, so the pressure needs to stay on).
Only when enough of the Democratic base becomes completely anti-establishment (populist messaging will get them there as long as they’re willing to listen) and demands new leadership, only then will the Pelosis and the Schumers lose their power. They haven’t actually feared their base in a long time, and that needs to change now.
So, sure — nobody from the party will put progressives in charge, the party’s base of supporters needs to demand it first. Then they can just take the power without having to ask, the same way Trump did in the GOP.
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As if anyone cares what a liberal thinks
Says the person who is so engrossed in fucking political group think that their definition of liberal is about as useful as a conservatives definition of leftist. Id suggest ya stop chucking bricks in that glass house of yours lest ye cut thineself.
I’m very clear of the definition of liberal and how they are complicit in the actions of their conservative counterparts.
Saw pictures of the turnout in Bakersfield. 4,000 people there is amazing.
Considering the metro area is like 920k, that’s not actually a terrible turn out, but it does suggest that the momentum is not keeping up with the decline.
“Oligarchy” is quite a big word for conservatives. They probably think it has something to do with oil. (and I guess in a way, it does)
How much news is this getting?
Use a search engine and skim which outlets are reporting on it
While he is doing well, the reality is if he doesnt break from democrat this will be a big scam when he will try to get these people to vote democrat if there is an election.
We absolutely cannot afford to make a third party right now. That splits the vote and guarantees Republican dominance going forward.
We must change the Democratic party through primaries.
We must change the Democratic party through primaries.
You’re saying this because you know they have their thumb on the scale during primaries.
But the Democrats aren’t going to start fighting for what the people want if voters keep voting Blue No Matter Who. We’ve seen them continuously run to the right, because they don’t feel like they have to earn votes.
I get what your saying, and I think there’s some truth to it, but I’ve also seen the Democrats in action, and I can’t say that I have any hope that they are going to suddenly change their ways. If they really don’t want the 3rd parties to split the vote, then they should try adopting the policies that the 3rd parties are running on.
Not just through primaries. There needs to be public pressure for the corpo Dems to step down and make way for new leadership that is truly progressive. Trump took over the GOP by converting its base: first through the Tea Party and then MAGA.
Exactly. In my opinion the best hope for the US is that the democrats fix their party in some amount via primaries, then win next election with a strong majority and immediately reform the electoral system to something better which allows for more parties.
That’s a pipe dream, especially with current leadership. The Dem party needs a progressive takeover.
Idk, I think there might be enough people on the right and left willing to change it up and vote for a workers party instead of what we have now. It seems plenty of people are sick of barely surviving as corporate oligarchs get richer, a new party could run on that.
I know I’m ready for one. I’ve been losing faith in and respect for Democrats since the 2016 election and it’s at an all time low.
We’ve had the same 2 parties since before the Civil War. But both have been changed drastically from the inside.
That’s how it has to be done in a 2-party system like ours.
Maybe they should bring a Cheny with them
And a guillotine.
“Fighting” oligarchy by voting in their elections for their controlled opposition party. 🤡
Just a funding cash grab like all the other times with the excitement and fervor having died decades ago
also hard to take Democrats and Republicans seriously but the fact so many people do gives even less hope for the future
If Democrats were going to save us they would have had decades ago instead of fighting for segregation but that was not a big enough red flag
After watching Bernie have a Palestine flag removed at one of his rallies, I’m less interested in being herded back to one of the controlled opposition parties.
Edit: I accept your down votes, but Palestine is a flashpoint issue. Capitalism has called for the destruction of a people. This has to be the line we draw. Bernie cannot expect to fight oligarchy while bowing down to Zionism. They are intrinsically linked struggles. Zionism is supported by the US because it positions Israel as a key outpost in one of the most oil rich regions in the world. The genocide is linked to the wars for oil. The constant fight for oil is a result of capitalism. You cannot be a socialist and support Israel. It is antithetical to the values of socialism.
Bernie is a registered independent, he’s not a Democrat. That’s why the DNC worked so hard to tank his campaigns.
‘Worked so hard’
As far as I can recall, first go around the dnc denied him access to some voter data which was given to him 24 hours later, and then he lost because he didnt do well with black voters in southern states.
And in 2020 Biden offered Buttitege a cabinet position if he’d drop out and endorse him, the most normal political shit that happens every primary, then bernie lost because black voters in southern states voted again for the centerist.
It’s fun and emotionally rewarding to imagine the DNC as an evil entity single handedly stopping Bernard Joseph Sanders from saving the world, but the reality is that a key demographic for getting the nominee just doesn’t trust democratic socialism and Bernie has never managed to change their mind on that.
The email leak showed the DNC illegally favored the Clinton campaign when they were supposed to remain neutral to all candidates:
And then they successfully argued in court that they didn’t have to run fair primaries. But we’re supposed to trust their primaries when they deign to hold them.
Good for you for recognising it and shouting it from the rooftops. I’m not big on Americans these days but you’re ok.
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He’s always been a Zionist pig
