I think in this case a gun would just get you killed.
Definitely important to know how to use them comfortably and even have one at home but I don’t think a gun is gonna help when you get swarmed by feds on your own.
If a group got together and organized armed volunteer defense groups that patrolled areas most at risk, that could deter individual kidnappings, but knowing where they will strike is challenging even if you had people organized in the area already.
It would definitely be a worthwhile organizing project, along with other decolonization/survival programs.
In all cases a gun would get you killed. Hell, even having a registered firearm could lead the state to kick your door in, guns drawn when they come and arrest you for retweeting a Macklemore post about “free Palestine”. All it takes is one trigger happy douche to come in guns blazing because they were big scared of a 20 year old Palestinian on a green card who rides a fixie to campus
At this point shooting back without some sort of organization would lead to real life five stars in GTA
Not to be all negative, but we are back to square one. Nothing meaningful will happen in the movement in our lifetime. All we can do is try to get people to see it our way and then maybe when we’re old, they’ll come cut our heads off with broadswords because they perceive what we have going on as “too right wing”.
I’d love to be taken out in a revolution by some whippersnappers who think I’m The Man™
Depends on the movement, I reckon. The fascist movement is going to force the US to be destroyed, and if the left can organize in anticipation of that, there will be a chance to create strongholds and build new societies in the balkanized aftermath. Either way, as that happens, the the global south will blossom with the imperialists absent.
I appreciate the optimism, but even “progressive” libs are still punching left because somehow all 145 of us caused them to lose the election. They have zero self reflection, so I anticipate at least another generation before there’s enough groundwork to strike. I don’t think we have that much time.
Even when organized into a small commune, the feds will just raid and/or bomb you if they want you enough. But it is a lot more work for them, so this would be an escalation that overall works in our favor over time.
What we really need is entire communities ejecting feds and dearresting. But that requires a much greater level of organization.
Yes it’s true, robust and widespread organizing is the only potentially successful strategy. Another user pointed out that even having a registered firearm and being associated with anti Zionism or whatever else they don’t like could put a target on you. I am strongly in favor of being armed in the US but under the current climate, it could invite extra scrutiny and/or surveillance
I think in this case a gun would just get you killed.
Definitely important to know how to use them comfortably and even have one at home but I don’t think a gun is gonna help when you get swarmed by feds on your own.
If a group got together and organized armed volunteer defense groups that patrolled areas most at risk, that could deter individual kidnappings, but knowing where they will strike is challenging even if you had people organized in the area already.
It would definitely be a worthwhile organizing project, along with other decolonization/survival programs.
In all cases a gun would get you killed. Hell, even having a registered firearm could lead the state to kick your door in, guns drawn when they come and arrest you for retweeting a Macklemore post about “free Palestine”. All it takes is one trigger happy douche to come in guns blazing because they were big scared of a 20 year old Palestinian on a green card who rides a fixie to campus
At this point shooting back without some sort of organization would lead to real life five stars in GTA
Yeah you’re probably right. They’ve shown they will do anything it get away with it. Organizing is really the only solution
Not to be all negative, but we are back to square one. Nothing meaningful will happen in the movement in our lifetime. All we can do is try to get people to see it our way and then maybe when we’re old, they’ll come cut our heads off with broadswords because they perceive what we have going on as “too right wing”.
I’d love to be taken out in a revolution by some whippersnappers who think I’m The Man™
Depends on the movement, I reckon. The fascist movement is going to force the US to be destroyed, and if the left can organize in anticipation of that, there will be a chance to create strongholds and build new societies in the balkanized aftermath. Either way, as that happens, the the global south will blossom with the imperialists absent.
I appreciate the optimism, but even “progressive” libs are still punching left because somehow all 145 of us caused them to lose the election. They have zero self reflection, so I anticipate at least another generation before there’s enough groundwork to strike. I don’t think we have that much time.
you’re talking about some people on twitter.
Care to elaborate?
Even when organized into a small commune, the feds will just raid and/or bomb you if they want you enough. But it is a lot more work for them, so this would be an escalation that overall works in our favor over time.
What we really need is entire communities ejecting feds and dearresting. But that requires a much greater level of organization.
Yes it’s true, robust and widespread organizing is the only potentially successful strategy. Another user pointed out that even having a registered firearm and being associated with anti Zionism or whatever else they don’t like could put a target on you. I am strongly in favor of being armed in the US but under the current climate, it could invite extra scrutiny and/or surveillance
I would simply acquire a non-registered firearm
Don’t joke about this comrade
https://www.findlaw.com/consumer/consumer-transactions/private-gun-sale-laws-by-state.html
I guess I should say, registered to somebody else