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A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn’t have to follow the judge’s oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn’t in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing “national security concerns.”

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”

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    20 hours ago

    You mean the people who wish death on people who are absolutely destroying humanity? Or, gun people? Because, I don’t own a gun. 🤷‍♂️

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      19 hours ago

      Both. I just think the “oh well we must immediately escalate to bloodshed” people are only serving to worsen the situation because it skips over all the other legitimate ways we have of fighting back, like protest and the courts. Ways that a bigger portion of the populace is willing to participate in (currently). And right now we need everyone who’s reasonable resisting in any way they can.

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        19 hours ago

        I seriously hope you’re right. I’d rather not see a bunch of people die. But I haven’t seen anything at all to suggest the usual ways are gonna work, and by the time we realize that it will be too late (if it’s not already).

        Give me hope, tell me something that is actually going to stop them and is likely to work.

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          18 hours ago

          No single thing is going to fix this. It’s going to take a concerted effort of protests and economic boycotts and judges doing their job and elected officials doing their job and the fucking media doing their job and public sentiment souring further on Trump and people refusing to follow unlawful orders and yes maybe even a little direct action. Not all of it is going to work and not all of it has to work. My only point here is we can’t just think there’s a single silver bullet (pun intended) because that breeds inaction for all other forms of resistance. We each need to find a way to resist and do that instead of waiting for somebody who isn’t coming to save the day.

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            18 hours ago

            Okay so literally nothing. Just lots of “resist” with no actual directions or suggestions. You can see we’re fucked, you just don’t want to admit it because you’re not the violent kind (not a bad thing under normal circumstances, I’m not insulting).

            But you’ve really just outlined my whole problem. If the pacifists can’t actually announce a believable plan, this time they need to step aside.

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              18 hours ago

              If you think that list of ways to resist are “nothing,” then there’s nothing more I can tell you. Good luck with your sitting around and waiting for violent revolution.

              And I never said I was a pacifist. I said it takes multiple types of resistance to effectively counter fascism.

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                4 hours ago

                Your vague “protest” suggestions are not a list. You’re just as unhelpful as everyone else. Yeah, me included.

                We are fucked haha.

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                  Do you need me to hand-hold you all the way to a protest? Okay, here’s how it works:

                  1. Find a local protest organization in your area. If you have trouble doing that, check out https://indivisible.org/ which lists events from local groups around the country.
                  2. Find an event that sounds like something you might want to attend.
                  3. Make a sign. Go to the event. Protest.

                  Don’t like that idea? Fine. Then find a way to resist that better suits you. But whining on the internet that “there’s nothing that can be done, we are fucked” doesn’t accomplish anything. Part of the goal of this administration is to create an air of inevitability around their gathering power so that people obey in advance. It makes it a whole lot easier for them to be fascists if they don’t have to fight for every scrap of fascism along the way. Don’t let them do that. Don’t obey in advance.