I’m glad you posted this here, I saw a discussion a few days ago and the entire thing just disgusted me. I actually played when these cards came out but I never knew about this card or any of what this was. Now, in hindsight, it’s pretty ridiculous to me that Mark Rosewater pushed this thru to actually being printed. To print something like this, it has to go through numerous stages of review. He thought this was so funny and such a good “in joke” that he pushed it through. Never once apologized, and whenever was asked about this, he never said anything or apologized at all.
NOW after this all comes out the guy issues an apology and owns it. That’s great and all, but what kind of a scumbag does this, especially someone in their 30s. He wasn’t a child, he was a grown adult working for a big game company. He even brought this card up on his drive to work podcast and never said anything about the true meaning behind the card. I have lost a lot of respect for Rosewater over the last few years but this is beyond sick.
This is especially sick because this was done to a woman during a time when it was incredibly difficult for women to get into the game. A woman who just dared to “have a relationship” with other magic players. Done to someone who didn’t and couldn’t really speak up for herself given the overwhelming pressure of trying to fit into the group of magic players and the heightened position that Rosewater had at WoTC. All the more egregious to me.
Yeah, to me the most egregious part is that he didn’t bring up any of it or apologise when it came up in the drive to work.
He should’ve known better and it is and remains egregious and a black spot, but sexism was more OK and soft power dynamics were less openly recognised so I could get it not being seen as a “big deal” in a boys club in the 90s, but while being the face of a company that purports to be capitalist-progressive and inclusive of women not apologising when it came up just shows where that façade ends.
All impacting why I felt the need to share here since I’d not seen it posted on Lemmy yet (and I got to use a YouTube alternative which I push when it comes up, too.)
I’m glad you posted this here, I saw a discussion a few days ago and the entire thing just disgusted me. I actually played when these cards came out but I never knew about this card or any of what this was. Now, in hindsight, it’s pretty ridiculous to me that Mark Rosewater pushed this thru to actually being printed. To print something like this, it has to go through numerous stages of review. He thought this was so funny and such a good “in joke” that he pushed it through. Never once apologized, and whenever was asked about this, he never said anything or apologized at all.
NOW after this all comes out the guy issues an apology and owns it. That’s great and all, but what kind of a scumbag does this, especially someone in their 30s. He wasn’t a child, he was a grown adult working for a big game company. He even brought this card up on his drive to work podcast and never said anything about the true meaning behind the card. I have lost a lot of respect for Rosewater over the last few years but this is beyond sick.
This is especially sick because this was done to a woman during a time when it was incredibly difficult for women to get into the game. A woman who just dared to “have a relationship” with other magic players. Done to someone who didn’t and couldn’t really speak up for herself given the overwhelming pressure of trying to fit into the group of magic players and the heightened position that Rosewater had at WoTC. All the more egregious to me.
Yeah, to me the most egregious part is that he didn’t bring up any of it or apologise when it came up in the drive to work.
He should’ve known better and it is and remains egregious and a black spot, but sexism was more OK and soft power dynamics were less openly recognised so I could get it not being seen as a “big deal” in a boys club in the 90s, but while being the face of a company that purports to be capitalist-progressive and inclusive of women not apologising when it came up just shows where that façade ends.
All impacting why I felt the need to share here since I’d not seen it posted on Lemmy yet (and I got to use a YouTube alternative which I push when it comes up, too.)