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Cake day: 2023年7月26日

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  • I don’t debate that people should have distaste for nazi tatoos. But illegal, I would say no, that is clearly too far in my book.

    As for dolls satiateing anyone. I never intended to suggest they do. I asked, do we have evidence that they cause harm. And if not, how do we decide what should be banned despite a lack of evidence proving it harmful.

    As for the requirement being the same as a ban. It’s really not. Cause just .ike they are doing, they can sell various parts separately, and let the user assemble. That is really hard to enforce. My suggestion isn’t perfect, but it is easier to enforce.



  • See now that brings up a good question. Is there any evidence that shows that child like dolls lead to an increase in abuse of children? If so, then this is a bad example for the personal freedom vs percieved threat question. But I am not sure I have heard of any such evidence. Maybe it’s just neutral. That said, whether it be this, or the right to do drugs in your own home, or the right to assisted suicide, or even the right to alcohol. The question I am asking is, where is the line between needing to have evidence versus having percieved evidence?


  • I really don’t understand what you are saying. I was in fact looking to open a discussion on a personal freedom angle. But the specific topic here was just what got me thinking about it. “A guy with a megaphone”. I really have no idea what that is referring to.

    I did suggest that all sex toy type products could maybe be required to have some dimension that clearly marks the item as representing an adult. That would be my suggestion. But I am still curious where people draw the line on personal freedom vs something that isn’t proven to be harmful. Drugs and such are another good example. Should people be allowed to do whatever dtugs they want, as long as they don’t drive or something. Alcohol actually follows that example. Guns do to. Lots of ways to frame the debate.


  • I can see how this whole topic can be kind of tricky. Not letting a free citizen have sex with a child like doll is kind of like arresting someone for thinking about committing a crime. I am generally of the belief that people should be free to do as they please as long as what they do doesn’t impinge on other people’s rights and such. But this is one of those border cases. Making it illegal without proof that it leads to crimes is questionable. But waiting for the proof means some children were abused, which is unacceptable as well.

    Also, a guy could just buy one of those things that is lower torso and upper legs only. Nothing on it implies an age. So he can think of it as a child in his head. Yet making those illegal seems a stretch. Maybe it would have to be something like all sex dolls need to include enough parts to clearly distinguish them from children? But even that would be hard to truely define.



  • Read what you posted. The context is saying that they don’t know for sure what % of the population knew, and they lay out some arguments supporting both sides. You used the link as if it proved the population didn’t know. But that clearly isn’t what it says.

    My point wasn’t that the link proved the opposite of your opinion, it was that the link doesn’t prove your opinion. That is a different bar.

    The word “however” basically means “in contrast to the previous sentence”. It exclusion doesn’t change the meaning of the quote. It simply shortens it by allowing the exclusion of the previous sentence. I am not disputing that some experts believe the population didn’t know. I am disputing that the link proves that the consensus of experts believe the population didn’t know. That is how you presented the link, with obvious intent to mislead anyone who didn’t read it into thinking it supported as fact that the population didn’t know.