• Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml
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      Not to line them all up against a wall and shoot them.

      Maybe make them watch American history X or something, fuck do I know but a solution to hate isn’t more hate.

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        American History X is probably not the best de-Nazifying material but I do agree that in a perfect world, forcibly reeducating them is a more ideal solution, and in certain situations maiming or even just punching can work as a short-term solution.

        It’s not so much about hate as it is about defending ourselves and protecting the people who their continued existence is a constant threat towards. Though the hate doesn’t hurt.

        Some of us don’t have the luxury of waiting for a perfect solution. In the meantime, Bash The Fash

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          Reeducation is for peace time, after winning and substantially changing the system. Sure, right now you may be able to change individual minds. I’m sure many here started off as some reactionary, I know I certainly did. But the problem is that the institutions with power and influence and the condition that created Nazis are still present and PROMOTED by society.

          It’s the equivalent of Planet Fitness. Will some members become very fit and very healthy? Absolutely, with the right program and discipline, they can achieve that anywhere. But when you discourage advanced training, fill the gym with ineffective machines made by conmen, and feed everyone pizza, the majority will continue to stay unfit and unhealthy.

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            People here are getting you to complain and outting yourself as a future collaborator. So I’d say it’s a job well done given the limited nature of online activities

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            This is such a fedbait thing to say.

            If people are organising and doing direct action in their irl lives, they sure as hell aren’t going to be bragging about it online to impress a pearl-clutching lib who disapproves of direct action because “hate perpetuates hate”.

            Just because you aren’t personally doing anything about the threat of fascists and just because you find the American History X message to be poignant and compelling doesn’t mean that this applies universally to everyone else in the world. You’re just telling on yourself by adopting this attitude, at least to the people who are engaged in activism.

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                  Again, US problems you’re projecting onto the rest of the world. Not everything revolves around your country.

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                    organising

                    US problems

                    One: get your head out of your arse and maybe, just maybe figure out that your US-centric outlook might be quickly disproved by the fact that my language is a strong indication that I am not a yank.

                    Two:

                    Are you illiterate or do you just dismiss evidence out of hand because you assume everything comes from and is about the US reflexively because you are so US-centric in your outlook?

                    This is where you should feel ashamed of yourself but I’m not convinced that you actually have the capacity for humility given the fact that you’re talking out your arse and you assume that you know enough about The Base and Atomwaffen that you don’t need to read the Wikipedia entries on them.

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        maybe make them watch American History X or something

        Hahahahahahaha okay now I’m convinced this must be a bit. Nothing like some ed Norton to cure racism. Why not make them watch 21 Jump Street, after all it cured Kanye of antisemitism

        Someone was asking us yesterday why we hate liberals, this response right here encapsulates just about every reason we hate liberals

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        My dad was a neonazi and he loved watching American History X because he enjoyed the representation of his beliefs up on the silver screen.

        He was entirely immune to and ignorant of the moralising that underpinned the denouement of the film.

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        You’re suggesting rounding them up for re-education. We suggest that all the time, and yet when we suggest it you call us monsters.

        The time for re-education was 10 years ago though. There are far too many fascists now and they are embedded in far too many institutions, the inevitable outcome is already decided and the only pathway out down the line will be violent.