Do dummies actually think she’s more “radical” than Biden? Maybe if we beg madam hard enough she’ll give us healthcare! copium

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Is there anything Kamala or Biden could do you would consider a valid reason not to vote for either of them? If Biden literally shot a Palestinian child in the face on stage, would that do it? What about SAing a Palestinian?

    I ask because realistically speaking doing these would lose the Dems the election, and yet the genocide is exactly this except in the thousands. You’d never expect people to vote for either of these people if they publicly did something heinous, and yet the genocide is exactly something heinous, just not as in your face as the president doing it on stage.

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      Of course there is. If Harris shot a child and Trump said he’d shoot 10 children, who would you rather deal with? Or is that a hard choice you’d rather not make by avoiding voting?

      It’s like women’s rights in relation to abortion. The vast majority of leftist men who seemingly don’t care if a Trump admin results in a federal ban, and would rather spend their energy convincing themselves that they can dissuade Dems from supporting Israel.

      Fix what you can but don’t delude yourself into thinking you can fix what you can’t, and then berate others for not partaking in your Sisyphean tasks.

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        If Harris shot a child and Trump said he’d shoot 10 children

        Are you being deceptive on purpose or did you just misunderstand my question?

        I didn’t ask if Harris shot a child and Trump promised to shoot 10/more who would you rather deal with, I asked if Kamala simply shot a child, would that be enough for you not to vote for her? Literally, right now, you switch on the news and see every channel telling you Kamala just shot a Palestinian child in the face and you see the video of it, meanwhile Trump is making zero claims about shooting any children; do you still vote for her? To reiterate my question: Is there anything Kamala or Biden could do you would consider a valid reason not to vote for either of them?

        The point of the question is that you and I both know she’d lose either every Dem voter or the vast majority of them, meanwhile an actual genocide is taking place where many, many more are dying and the same people who’d stop voting for her because of her shooting a child wouldn’t care about the tens of thousands who’ve died sight unseen.

        Let me put a second question up as well: Why should Biden or Kamala bother going to any more debates? Who cares? Literally as a voter you have a choice between either Kamala or Trump, and you’re supposed to vote for Kamala, so why should she bother going to the debates? What are the Dem voters going to do about it, not vote for her and get Trump instead?

        I’ll even give you the answer to the second question: It’s because Kamala’s supposed to be trying to win; it’s literally the same reason they’re supposed to stop supporting the genocide. If they’re not putting in the effort to win, how is that the fault of the people who won’t vote for them? This goes back to the first question: shooting a child in the face would lose them the election (although the purpose of the first question is to point out people are more bothered with the evil they can see than the monumental evil they can’t/won’t).

        and then berate others for not partaking in your Sisyphean tasks

        And what task is that? Literally what task do you think people are berating you for? Everyone who is no longer voting for the Dems right now just want Kamala/Biden to stop supporting genocide, it’s neither Sisyphean and nor is it directed at the people who are voting for Kamala, and as you were the one to bring it up, tell me: do you think Biden/Kamala ceasing support for genocide is Sisyphean? Simply not sending weapons at the very bare minimum?

        And please don’t try to be deceptive again; you can clearly see what I’ve posted here so don’t pretend I asked a question I didn’t.

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        If Harris shot a child and Trump said he’d shoot 10 children, who would you rather deal with?

        Then I wouldn’t vote for either of them as I would not want to have “child murder” become something trivial that the Dems feel they can get away with. I would not want a child murderer to be legitimised and approved by way of my vote. This also isn’t an answer to the question, which you are attempting to evade.

        The vast majority of leftist men who seemingly don’t care if a Trump admin results in a federal ban, and would rather spend their energy convincing themselves that they can dissuade Dems from supporting Israel.

        If you’re trying to make a comparison like this, then you have to compare the causes and the victims, not some made-up guy you’re mad at.

        Fix what you can.

        You are delusional if you believe you are fixing anything by trivialising genocide as a political cause. Letting this slide isn’t some minor policy issue and you’re both deranged and immensely stupid to think that it is.

        berate others for not partaking in your Sisyphean tasks.

        That is quite literally what you are doing right now

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          I wouldn’t vote for either of them as I would not want to have “child murder” become something trivial that the Dems feel they can get away with

          This is what I tell the libs I know: by far the biggest danger in this election is the “good guys” finding out there are zero consequences for doing an active genocide right out in the open.