Capitalism once again proving it is the most efficient system at wasting money
You say wasting money, I say generating profit.
What’s the difference if both ways its going to sit and do nothing.
What do you mean “nothing”? It lets those with bigger piles crush those with smaller piles and makes people cheer for the villain
So again nothing unless you are a 1%. You never participate in capitalism anyways.
Of course I participate! Without consent, I get pummeled senselessly by billionaires who don’t even really I exist.
And have you seen what they do to people who they do notice???
Look, only one of these is going to generate some work for the construction industry in Virginia. Daddy needs a new mansion.
The difference is that they’ll do nothing while suntanning on a yacht
just have china make them since they make everything else
I mean China already makes over 40% of chips used by the DoD 😂
China’s going to have to sanction the USA at some point
indeed
surprised they’re making anything that doesn’t have Chinese chips in it. guess that’s why military electronics are 200x as expensive as consumer stuff and also worse
lol yeah
Most of these contractors sell to civilians at reasonable prices but mark up their shit for the government. It’s not because of China’s resources but because the US is too cucked to say no to their suppliers.
Wonder how much of the grey chunk is from “Taiwan”, probably a lot. Meaning it’s essentially controlled/destroyed by China in a few days if the US starts some shit.
yup
China already makes most primer chemicals for the US lol. Russia also banned its cheap steel ammo exports which contributed to the spike in ammo prices in the US
Good thing the US was planning to win the war in just 7 days then.
“we’ll just win the war really fast” - a plan that has never gone wrong
Home in time for Christmas.
yeah i’m not sure a us carrier group would survive 3 to 4 weeks against a swarm of inexpensive hypersonic missiles
Yemen has definitively proven that US navy can’t even stand up to a country without a navy.
The US Navy, pictured here, unable to win a fight at sea against zero ships.
Yeah, how many times did they sink the same carrier? 7?
The other carriers won’t even survive one sinking
Last I checked, the carrier left the Red Sea with its tail between its legs, after the captain posted a vid from a month before the attack as “proof” that nothing happened.
On the other hadn the US Navy admitted that they had instances of last second intercepts of Houthi missiles that got through to the last line of ship defences. A limited number of older iranian missiles managing that doesnt bode well for the carrrier group against an order of magnitude more modern chineae missilies
They never announced sinking of carrier, they said they damaged it which may or not be true, fact is that it retreated from the Red Sea with some sus behaviour from the USNavy about it.
Millennium challenge, they were warned
Them admitting this just seems to be the same tactics that are meant to be “scary” and create false demand for more money. With it being an election year and all, it means the corpo parties will both trip over each other to provide blank checks. Like always.
Imagine Trump’s disappointment that his beloved military can’t fight due to capitalism
Losers and suckers
Does it matter? In a peer on peer fight America would push the nuke button so readily.
I think that even US oligarchs would rather rule over what remains of their empire than spend the rest of their days living like rats in a bunker. Pushing the nuclear button is a no win scenario.
Not saying a nuclear exchange is impossible, but I have seen nuclear scientists discuss just how (relatively) little nuclear weapons going off could really fuck up the planet.
About 100 bombs the size of the one dropped on Hiroshima (relatively tiny, basically a tactical nuke today) going off in cities could potentially fuck up the climate of an area the size of a continent for several years.
If the US and Russia launched about 5% of their arsenal at each other, that’s enough to potentially end most human life on earth.
When two nuclear powers go to war, once they start launching the nukes there is no off-ramp, no real way to de-escalate.
Long way of saying I agree, the oligarchs of the US have to know what a war with China would actually bring. And like you said, better to rule in a diminished US than die the same death as the proles they hate.
Indeed, I think the real danger is that US might start a conventional war with China thinking they could win, and then when things inevitably start going south, there’s a lot of potential for stupid shit to happen. RAND actually published a study on a conventional war with China, and this is the level of insanity we’re dealing with https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html
We also assume that China would not attack the U.S. homeland … given its minimal capacity to do so with conventional weapons
Jfc you weren’t kidding, these people are actually detached from reality. Amerikkkans really can’t comprehend the reality of war since they haven’t actually experienced it as a population since the civil war. 100% the war would start with America attacking, getting a bloody nose, losing a carrier or two, and launching nukes at China.
Indeed, it’s just absolutely surreal stuff.
since the civil war
And even the civil war was very restrained to the population compared to what USA always did to others.
The next question is whether the oligarchs can prevent the True Believers from taking over and deciding to nuke their way to Kingdom Come
Indeed, and that’s the really scary part of all this.
I am absolutely sure once carrier groups start going down America would panic. I think they might even make the calculus that a limited nuclear strike would not be enough to provoke a full nuclear response, especially if they think China would be reticent to start a full nuclear war for humanitarian reasons.
that’s basically what the RAND paper I linked below argues as well
Yeah if you analyse the USA as you would a child you come to the same answer.
When me and my sibling were very young, I was older and hence bigger and ostensibly more mature than my younger sibling. If my younger sibling wasn’t getting their own way they’d worked out they could punch me in a non-sensitive location (shoulder, thigh etc) and I wouldn’t be able to respond other than verbally as mom would be angry at me.
I feel like the USA would be the same as my younger sibling, in the case of not getting their own way, they would go nuclear, but rather than trying to nuke Beijing and the rest, it would try to do a limited number of strikes on maybe a key port with a large Chinese naval presence, power or fuel or ammunition manufacturing etc to level the score. Then they would hope that after this limited strike, their opponents would be forced to show restraint, much like me and my sibling with the threat of mom being mad, but for America and China the threat of ‘mom’ would literally be M.A.D.
accurate
You assume that they are rational actors, when there is ample evidence they are not
unfortunately, what we’re seeing in Ukraine does indeed show that there might not be much rationality at play
I am like 30% sure we haven’t maintained our nukes properly and they haven’t really worked for decades
They say this avout russia too. I rather not find out.
Both countries have lately engage in extensive maintenance and modernisation projects for their nukes, but difference is that in Russia both military and arms industry are accountable.
Pretty sure that’s just projection.
That would be hilarious, and also SHOULD be what happens, in order for life to continue on Earth
perpetually lagging US army tropeWhile it’s true that it’s all propaganda, you have to dig beyond these provocative woe is me headlines. The US’ supply chains are heavily dependent on China, including military tech. Congress is trying to launch initiatives for domestic production (or at least decoupling from china) of chemicals and components for munitions and advanced military tech.
Whether or not the pockets of MIC are lined up or the military is “fine,” the fact remains that right now, nukes aside, if the US goes to war with China, they will either fail or scrape by their teeth by threatening to end all life in Europe in Asia unless their allies repurpose their entire societies to produce for the US.
Ty for the extra analysis o7
The MIC needs more funding!
I’ma keep it real with you American military industrial complex, I am not going to war with kitai for no reason. (and lord knows any justification they try to give won’t be a reason, especially not Taiwan).
Dont worry. Us patriots will step up and use our ammo stashes to defend the US from the parachuting chicoms!
Usians who think they’re gonna defend their country from an invasion amuse me.
The commies are going after your treats, and your treats aren’t “American made”
Going somewhere, Zhang?
Maybe they should work on their aim.
Look at the quality of F-35s, they perform worse than F-22s. America is losing.
