• nexguy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Biden doesn’t make policy decisions standing at podium reading a teleprompter. He sits in meeting and has discussions with advisors and has follow up discussions and rewrites policies and discusses votes and rewrites again with further discussions. That’s who I’m voting for and I think he is still able to do that.

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      They know this already. They aren’t going to be educated on the matter. They’re not voting and working hard to convince others not to as well.

      The best thing you can do is call this out when you see it. Ask them to answer how they’d prefer life under Trump’s thumb. Ask them who else could defeat Trump that is running right now. Ask them what are our other options. They’ll do their best to bullshit through responses, but at the end of the day-

      They know we have none.

      Ask them how they’re support a free Palestine, while being able to see Trump suggesting Israel “finish the job” but that is somehow not enough to vote against him.

      These people cannot answer any of these questions in good faith. I’ve asked them, and tons of others have. They distract and counter with bad faith bullshit. Then they disappear- only to reappear elsewhere with the same bullshit.

      You cannot reason with, or inform to educate them. They know the facts. And they’re here to urge you not to vote against Trump anyway.

      What does that tell you?

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        Why is this particular political structure and electoral process and set of parties the best? Can’t we be more creative? We can do so much more than vote in this same process which makes us choose the ‘lesser evil’ to save democracy, every election for decades now. I can’t bring myself to legitimize the US and still feel a clean conscience any longer.

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          Oh we can do a HELL of a lot better. We have weeds here that are more charismatic. But this is where we are because a large portion of our population doesn’t like to do shit about politics until it’s too late- which is a cycle that resets every four years.

          America is essentially a cautionary tale on how not paying attention hurts people.

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        That there are a lot of bot accounts that can quickly inflame an issue with a pretty obvious grain of truth to it. And that there doesn’t seem to be much of a response other than “Biden is better than Trump” or “I support Biden due to his past competence”. Which feels like a very nothing burger of an answer, and instead gives plenty more questions rather than reassurance for Biden’s campaign. Trump is an dangerous idiot and I’d be the first to say not vote for Trump, a frankly sane and common sentiment. Honestly, the more time goes on, the more it feels like the arguments that are posited for voting for Biden without answering basic questions actually feel like they are being posed by bot accounts.

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          Biden’s accomplishments have been posted time and again in these arguments. I’m not going to repeat them here as all the times they’ve been listed clearly has done nothing.

          The fact remains- you vote for an administration- NOT a single man. And his administration has brought a positive.

          He is better than Trump because he isn’t a felonious rapist.

          That shout be enough. If it isn’t, your president isn’t really your biggest problem.

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      For 4 years? We need 2 vice presidents if biden doesn’t drop out for me to vote for his dying brain

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        If the president dies and the vice president takes over then the a new president appoints a new vice president subject to congressional approval.

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          Aite I guess biden gets my vote then. Mybad i wasn’t knowledgeable about the process.