I sort of wish Obama had more influence. He tried to tell Biden not to run in 2020, which definately would’ve been a better outcome even if the Dems coalesced around a different centrist.
Yeah, they were never going to let that happen. They’d preferred Trump over Bernie. Would’ve been hilarious to see Chris Matthews freak out even more about Bernie death squads rounding people up and executing them though.
The problem WAS that people preferred Bernie, same as every other populist candidate. The last ones that won resulted in a Term limit and an assassination respectively.
He asked Biden not to run in 2016, and he didn’t, then urged donors to support Hilary over Bernie. In 2020 he asked other candidates to drop out so Biden could run, and they did. I’d argue he has that influence you’re longing for and it hasn’t been that positive.
I sort of wish Obama had more influence. He tried to tell Biden not to run in 2020, which definately would’ve been a better outcome even if the Dems coalesced around a different centrist.
Or, you know, just let Burnie have his fucking chance.
Yeah, they were never going to let that happen. They’d preferred Trump over Bernie. Would’ve been hilarious to see Chris Matthews freak out even more about Bernie death squads rounding people up and executing them though.
Sad because the people obviously preferred Bernie over Trump.
The problem WAS that people preferred Bernie, same as every other populist candidate. The last ones that won resulted in a Term limit and an assassination respectively.
Teddy wasn’t assassinated, he specifically made a point of mocking the attempted assassin and finishing his speech before accepting medical attention.
Kennedy
Oh right, forgot about Kennedy. The way it was phrased I thought they were going backwards in time, not forwards
Damn dude you frame it like it was FDR’s fault
So you’re saying it’s his turn
He asked Biden not to run in 2016, and he didn’t, then urged donors to support Hilary over Bernie. In 2020 he asked other candidates to drop out so Biden could run, and they did. I’d argue he has that influence you’re longing for and it hasn’t been that positive.
Biden running in 2020 was good. Would’ve been even better had he stuck to his word and not ran again this time
Biden was being pushed by a lot of insiders to run in 2016. He didn’t because Beau had recently died of cancer.
Unlike Hunter, Beau wasn’t a fuckup. He was the one who was supposed to be going places.