• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Joe Biden has reportedly told a key ally he may not be able to continue with his 2024 campaign if he cannot change the American electorate’s mind about his health and well-being with his next handful of public appearances, the first indication from the president that he understands the seriousness of the damage done by his disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump in Atlanta, Georgia, last week.

    But Biden also said on a call with White House staff on Wednesday: “No one’s pushing me out. I’m not leaving. I’m in this race to the end and we’re going to win.”

    He’s got this shit backwards…

    He’s got this outdated view based on boomer logic of what voters want.

    Most voters are under 40 this election, at our oldest we were we teenagers during 9/11. Most literally can’t remember pre 9/11.

    We don’t want a leader that displays strength by a refusal to listen to the public. One that makes up their mind and charges ahead no matter what

    If Biden had came out the next morning after the debate and said that first paragraph at a press briefing. It would have helped his numbers with that demographic more than anything else. And that’s who he struggles with, he can’t afford not to have them because trump has 65 and up.

    But if he just straight up said:

    I fucked up, give me a chance to prove myself or I’ll step aside.

    That’s the type of presidential shit that voters who grew up post 9/11 and have since learned how wrong it was want. Instead of what the narrative has been the last week, everyone would have been hyping his appearances and “giving him a shot” he’d have completely drowned out trump in coverage, but this time for a good reason.

    Like, he’s running against trump, it’s not hard to come up with shit like this, but this is what happens where you stop listening to anyone who doesn’t 100% agree with you. It’s a spiral lots of people fall into when they become wealthy/powerful/successful

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      You hit the nail on the head. The fact that he hasn’t come out and said anything himself speaks volumes. everything is behind closed doors or through a prepared speech. We want proof that the man is able to speak publicly without someone feeding him information and he refuses to demonstrate that to us.

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    Here’s my problem with Biden stepping aside…

    Who takes his place? The Dems have had zero primaries with strong contenders, there are few people with name recognition that would do a decent job/have the broad support to beat Trump.

    What are you going to do, put up Kamala? Do you know how much that world get the rage vote turnout from the racist and misogynist Republicans?

    There’s just no good alternatives that I can see.

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      The trick is to find someone whom the Dem elites like.

      Or we can hold a real primary right now. I know it would be a second primary this season, but the DNC is a private corporation which makes up rules on the fly. The DNC uses their power for their big money donors, but technically they can use the same power to benefit their voter base too.

      Tim Walz exists. Marianne Williamson exists. The Dem side has the presidential material. The question is do the Dem billionaire donors and their henchmen give a shit or not?

      Somehow I don’t think the Dem elites will be impressed if we just politely beg harder.

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    Well he said he’s not so I guess we can shut the fuck up about it and focus on how his opponent the convicted felon pedophile rapist just showed up on more of the infamous pedophiles secret documents.

    You know, the convicted felon pedophile rapist that is trying to say that his presidential immunity protects him from misappropriating campaign funds to silence a porn star about the affair they had while his 3rd (4th?) wife was pregnant with their son.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Joe Biden has reportedly told a key ally he may not be able to continue with his 2024 campaign if he cannot change the American electorate’s mind about his health and well-being with his next handful of public appearances, the first indication from the president that he understands the seriousness of the damage done by his disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump in Atlanta, Georgia, last week.

    But Biden also said on a call with White House staff on Wednesday: “No one’s pushing me out.

    I’m not leaving.

    I’m in this race to the end and we’re going to win.”

    Biden, 81, has an interview with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News scheduled on Friday and campaign stops in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as he seeks to reassure voters and his party that he remains the right man to lead the country.

    White House spokesman Andrew Bates wasted no time in dismissing the story, calling the claim “absolutely false” and attacking The New York Times for not giving the West Wing sufficient time to respond to its request for comment.


    The original article contains 178 words, the summary contains 178 words. Saved 0%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Get Gavin Newsom in there. If there is someone better than he is for this role, put them in there. For the love of god, I hope they don’t end up with Kamala though. She’s going to have the same problem as Hillary only more so.

    But Biden’s numbers are just not looking good. His performance is already being used in campaign ads. I just don’t know how he wins in 2024.

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    Biden has had a week to go to the press room and do live interviews with heated questions to show that he is still fit. He spent a week preparing for the debate, and the immediately ran off and hid from the public after the debate (unless you consider going to the Waffle House, which Karine Jean-Pierre claims shows it was just a bad night).

    Biden had his chance to immediately show he was fine, but he couldn’t do it. He needs to withdraw now. Not tomorrow, not next week… Today.