Hello everyone! I tried to research this myself, but there were too many contradictions on reddit and the comprehensive rules be melting my brain. Hopefully you mighty wizards can clarify. :)

The relevant rules are 707.10 and 601.2i, of which succeeds rules 601.2a-h Most importantly, the relevant cards are [[Display of Power]] & [[Delayed Blast FireBall]].

I want to copy the spell once it is cast from exile so that the copy is doing 5 dmg to all legal targets.

If [[Delayed Blast Fireball]] is cast from exile and put on the stack, is the movement from exile to board not a payment defined under 601.2h?

My table was very hesitant due to the casting clause since copies aren’t cast, but let it through. To my understanding and in simplest terms: I’m copying the spell on the stack as it is, not the literal card, right? So if it was cast from exile the copy would retain that characteristic and activate its alternative ability. Then the casting clause that is tripping everyone up would only be relevant for triggering things like [[Prosper, Tome-Bound]]'s Pact Boon ability, which wouldn’t happen, yes?

Resolution: I contacted a judge and this was my response:

R0b_ 15:58:48 The copy wasn’t cast at all, much less cast from exile, so it only deals 2 damage

  • EvuEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Since Cardbot isn’t working:

    I’m not 100% confident in this ruling, but I would have sided with the rest of your table on this one. 707.2 lists the “copiable values” of an object, and “where it was cast from” or “previous zones of play” isn’t on the list. The copied DBF does have the “If this spell was cast from exile” text, but “this spell” refers to the copy, which wasn’t cast from exile (or at all).

    • ScionOfPeaceOPEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      Hmm I see where you’re coming from since it’s specifying ‘this spell’, but if the copy becomes a copy of the spell on the stack, shouldn’t that characteristic be copied as well?

      Since literally, ‘this spell’ is the card on the stack. I’ve copied that spell as it’s been prepared on the stack, not the spell. Since that spell was cast from exile and is simply waiting to be cast, it wouldn’t make sense for the copy to technically become a differently acting card (without specifications like new targets etc.)

      Is there some way to contact a judge? I’d love to clarify this 100% for everyone, because I wouldn’t enjoy an ambiguous yes either. The rules aren’t clear and there isn’t much discussion on it oddly enough.

      Edit2: I found some judge chat? R0b_ 15:58:48 The copy wasn’t cast at all, much less cast from exile, so it only deals 2 damage

      Honestly not satisfying as I don’t understand at all still, but a judge is a judge. I’ll edit the above.

      Edit: oof, steam formatting