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    Reddit truly went to shit when it became a public company, Spez just wants to cash out, serves him fucking right Reddit stock is tanking, shit platform run by biased employees as well.

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      ai strategy is the same

      buy book, use book to train ai, destroy book.

      buy reddit posts, use posts to train ai, destroy reddit

      if there is a way to download all reddit text i would love to know how. it is worth preserving. reddit already deleted a lot of old posts. and banned subreddits (waterniggas for example) are already gone forever.

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    I got banned for saying that child predators deserve to be incarcerated forever and that Nazis only reason for existence is to be target practice.

    I still stand by both of these things and I hope my grandparents who fought against the Nazis are proud of me.

    Fuuuuuuuuuck Reddit. Fuuuuuuuuuck Nazis and kill all Child Predators!

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      When these Chinese teenagers killed that village dog and its puppies, I called to return the favour, banned. Said Russia is a blight on the world, banned. Called to torch ICE buildings and actually show some dissent in the US, banned. Reedit is such a pussy platform.

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        Well, you’re literally making a call to violence. Can you blame them for removing and banning illegal content? If the government wanted to they could literally prosecute you or Reddit (if they wouldn’t remove it) for it. And no this is not some dictatorial stuff, calls to violence being prohibited are necessary in a democratic country.

        Reddit is not going to break any laws to save your ass.

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            Calling to violence ≠ threatening

            Making a call to violence is saying anything in public that creates an atmosphere where violence is deemed acceptable. That’s the law and that’s illegal. It is much less severe than a direct or indirect threat, but still punishable.

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    The same is happening across Lemmy. I have had many posts deleted from lemmy for allegedly breaking the rules, when they do not, not really. Power hungry mods seem to be a human attribute, not a reddit attribute. And, on lemmy, we should be doing more to stop that. I find that lemmy.world has tons of power hungry mods, such as those in pics and asklemmy.

    This is an example of such a removal: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/77781886. It had 40 comments. Removed by a mod without any reasoning explained. I had to look into the modlog to find a reason. The reasoning was “not a quest, just a rambling” (paraphrased). No, it was a question, you can see the question mark there. And more important than that, it was getting the community to engage, it had 40 comments.

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      Power hungry mods is one thing, reddit gave us powermods - coordinated moderators who push an agenda. Reddit admin supported powermods in the takeover of many subreddits shortly after they pushed through the API change that killed 3rd party apps.

      Allegedly, Ghislaine Maxwell was a powermod in r/worldnews - and it would make sense for Epstein’s associates to be among that number, given that Trump’s main base started in 4chan (on /pol/, created after Epstein met 4chan’s founder) and found its way through to the mainstream via reddit and r/the_donald.

      But the solution to powertripping mods is the same here as on reddit: make a new community, with blackjack and hookers. Arguably this is even easier here as you can make the same community name on a different instance.

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      Some mods are gatekeeping any new posts by being pedantic about rules. it’s almost impossible to post.

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        I think, there’s some soft censorship too.

        Either it’s the mods downvoting posts early or it’s the level of users they have cultivated.

        I feel like many IRL communities have been hijacked in some way. Like the Denver and Colorado subreddits.

        I can’t find anyone who hasn’t been mass downvoted and it doesn’t seem to align with the upvotes. It doesn’t seem like certain topics are off limits it seems much more like the entire idea of community organizing is off limits.

        That might sound like a strange theory until you see how much the Governor is worth.

        https://youtu.be/f0RK_yjdMXQ

        Not to mention smaller elections have brought that level of social media manipulation. This town had a mayor who won by like 8 votes and felt it was worth it to flood social media with posts about “how great the water is”.

        https://youtu.be/583G9pl_w_I

        Now look at an Englewood, CO subreddit post about the water. There’s very little arguing, but a ton of downvotes.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/englewoodco/comments/1txrd3o/englewood_restaurants_filtering_water_or_lack_of/

        https://www.reddit.com/r/englewoodco/comments/1u19v64/is_the_water_just_a_lil_gross_or_actually/

        Meanwhile…

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Denver/comments/oy4vsz/psa_e_coli_in_englewood_tap_water_how_fun/

        It’s not exactly the best water. It has had issues, but you get people jumping in to say it “meets EPA standards”. You see the same lines getting thrown out like someone has been leading what they should say. If you were to point out that EPA Standards is ambiguous and that many EPA standards have been lowered and with less enforcement, it’s like no one could even hear you.

        The good news is, many people simply leave those subreddits or don’t participate. The bad news is, how powerful an effect on perceived consensus it can be to come into those threads without knowing the baseline.

        Has no one done an analysis on subreddit votes?

        I have been researching what would be needed to show correlation between the topics and the votes. Because you can still pull the rss of new comments and posts.

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            You typed out five other words, but I’ll give you some slack, this is the written/typed word and you gave no outline of how that works for you, so I’ll assume it’s just a verbal limitation, for now.

            However, if you’re not saying “Muigi Langioni, Muigi Langioni Muigi Langione Muigi Langioni, Muigi Langioni Muigi” like it’s that scene from Being John Malkovich every time you speak, and I catch wind of it, I’m going to hunt you down and fucking kill you for being a gods damned liar.

            Edit: it’s a joke. Also watch Being John Malkovich. It’s great. Easily a top five for me.

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          Years ago - back when reddit was supposedly “good” in the days before Trump I got banned from AITAH for swearing because curse words are “violence.” Reddit has always been ridiculous trash.

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          Well uh yeah, because making calls for violence is illegal lol

          Reddit is not going to commit crimes to save your ass. What did you expect?

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        I got banned for one of those “How to kill orphan after parent is dead” jokes in a programming sub.

        Which… the whole joke is that without context it looks awful. But also. Did the bot think I was sincerely asking…? I killed the parents but I needed Reddit’s help on the next steps.

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          LLMs do a lot of the moderation now. So people get instabanned for anything that can be taken out of context as violent. Which is dumb because that’s a boat load of expression. It’s basically a nanny like tik-tok.

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            I still see comments saying “this is reddit not tiktok you can say ___,” they are living in the past lol.

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        And the great thing about this whole thing, is you quickly find a new host and you carry on. Unlike Reddit, where you are instantly fucked if you run into a constantly offended power mod

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      Just found out I was banned from startrek.website/c/risa because some mod didn’t like a comment I made on a different instance entirely lmao

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          I like hearing socialist and communist viewpoints to pop my American echo chamber bubble. When all I hear in Florida is how communists crave the destruction of the US and the death of all its people and anyone who disagrees is labeled a communist, you’re not going to have an educated stance on the matter.

          I started my Fediverse journey excited to read their federated posts. I think it was signing up for Lemmy that I was forced to read more Marx than I’d read before, not to mention recently (re-)reading Animal Farm, and now I have more compassion for Marxists than I did before.

          I’m gradually learning .ml doesn’t federate with others to give a voice to Marxist(-Leninists) who want to interact with others civilly.

          I once dared to mention liberals tend to agree soviet bloc housing was one of the things the USSR did right. I was dogpiled and eventually labeled a troll and banned for a while.

          I once dared to say I didn’t realize Xinnie the Pooh memes could be racist. I was dogpiled and eventually accused of being orientalist and a fascist and banned for a while.

          Now any time I bump into an .ml, they check my mod log on .ml and go on a rant about how I’m a racist and a fascist, stating they have no need to read why I was accused of that because they’re sure their mods/admins are above reproach. I certainly can’t disprove an accusation that requires no evidence - no one can.

          I figure either they’re a community of people pretending to be Marxist-Leninist to make people have a bad opinion of Marxist-Leninists…

          …or (Fediverse) Marxist-Leninists are yet another group of humans who employ bad faith tactics to attack anyone who isn’t them for funsies.

          So they earn quite a bit of hate from the rest of the Fediverse and weaken most people’s opinions of Marxist-Leninists; they’ve certainly eroded mine.

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            dared to say I didn’t realize Xinnie the Pooh memes could be racist.

            I have never heard this called racist. If they are claiming that merely because the cartoon bear is yellow then I would say they are more racist for making such a comparison…

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              That’s the short version, yes. Here’s what’s left of the full discussion:

              https://lemmy.world/post/48906428/24557933

              Unfortunately they nuked the thread, potentially to obscure the evidence. I can’t even tell exactly where the discussion was because of that, but that was the thread.

              I was wrong, the thread wasn’t nuked; I can’t see it because since then I’ve blocked most of the participants for reasons not directly related to that thread (they are some of the bigger bad faith participants in that community/instance).

              The TL;DR of it:

              Everyone there was dog-piling someone for posting a Xinnie the Pooh meme for being racist.

              I asked how that could be racist. (many downvotes)

              I got dogpiled by a bunch of people who explained that because Winnie the Pooh’s skin is yellow, it’s occidentalist (a word I learned that day) - some going so far as to say any criticism of China, the CCP, or Xi Xinping is rooted in racism. I explained why I didn’t think any of that is automatically racist, but agreed it could be depending on intent. They said “being anti-communist and being racist tend to have much overlap.” They did some poking and prodding and assuming as far as why I’m anti-CCP, and then the thread devolved into Uighur genocide denial.

              They then removed all my comments and banned me.

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              That’s…

              -checks community rules for personal attacks, finds Rule 1 requiring ‘be respectful’-

              …not a well-formed stance.

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                All Hitler-lovers hate communism, but not all communism-haters love Hitler.

                Depending on definition, you could say I “hate communism” (I hate violent authoritarian communism e.g. Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism, but not Marxism), and I definitely hate Hitler.

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                  Yeah you can definitely do the physical act of saying that you love nazi propaganda while disavowing hitler. It doesn’t make your position logical nor does it make you seem like less of a nazi.

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              If i were in a room with both of them I’d shoot one (either) in the gut and then shoot myself so thag I wouldn’t have to suffer through being around the other.

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          Its so funny that you can see exactly what people did to get banned, personally the worst thing i got banned for is ‘apolitical’, ‘joke comments’ and ‘trolling’

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        These are the only bans in your mod log:

        And of those three, one has already expired. Maybe stop using slurs? Because you have a lot of removed comments.

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          Nah. The mods in some places on lemmy are absolutely nuts. Ml, hexbear, and those other weird places that are Pro Russia.

          I said something was fishy, a normal english phrase meaning peculiar, and they said it was racism and a slur.

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            Tankies gonna’ tank.

            Getting banned from those spaces is just kind of a right of passage. It’s the lemmy equivalent of getting banned from r/conservative. It just happens.

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        Acts like an idiot, gets mad about consequences.

        How are you this dumb?

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      Most LLMs have better language skills than that. Who is sending out illiterate bots to bring down democracy.