• CrashEchoes@kbin.social
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    Saying they don’t support genocide isn’t really addressing the issue…

    Most complaints are that they deny China’s treatment of Uyghurs and seem to conflate criticism of that with racism against “China” (conveniently ignoring the plethora of ethnicities in such a huge country). If they want to detach themselves from the controversy they should be making a statement denouncing the Chinese government’s treatment of people in Xinjiang. Their statement could be clearer.

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      One can quite easily twist “we deny genocide is taking place” into “we don’t support genocide.” It’s easy to say you don’t support genocide when you’re saying there’s no genocide in the first place. Frankly, everything I’ve read about these guys is repellent and there’s no way I’d be donating money to them. I gave money to Ernest, the developer of kbin, instead.

      That said, though, this is completely true:

      We are individuals with our own opinions. If you disagree with these, it is no problem! You can still freely use the Lemmy software on different instances. If you host your own instance, we have no control over it at all and are unable to censor what users say.

      It’s an open source program operating with an open protocol and they can’t stop the rest of us from using it. If they ever try it’ll just get forked. So I see no problem with having Lemmy be a major part of the Fediverse’s infrastructure.

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        Exactly. I have no issue using the lemmy software (lord knows the developers of most other major social media platforms I’ve used in the past have had some messed up political views). But there’s absolutely no way I’ll be donating a penny to them. Ernest and admins of other major lemmy instances, yes, but not the tankie devs.

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      1 year ago

      How do they deny this? Are they actively posting saying that this is not true?

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      Yeah they confuse criticizing China with racism against Chinese people. Additionally they claim that any source from and news agency or journalists in the US that says anything bad about the USSR or China is CIA propaganda and should be ignored but then exclusively site Chinese propaganda websites.

      There’s also a lot of other evidence: https://raddle.me/f/lobby/159606/-/comment/294792

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        They say the same nonsense when Australian media also rightly criticizes them so it’s not just a US issue. Just look at the way they tried to strong-arm Australia when they were called out a few years ago, they tried cutting off a range of imports to try economic pressure (which didn’t work since plenty of other places will happily take wine, meat and product imports)

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          It was a great thing for Australia after some short-term pain, exporters saw how exposed they were to a single market and started to put effort into diversifying.