• Rhaedas@fedia.io
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    9 days ago

    Yes, but also… while the jihad would lead to billions of deaths, the state of the galaxy at that time was so stagnant that him not acting would lead to far worse results. So Catch-22 - he was doing the best thing for the very long run, and just didn’t have the ability/strength/balls to go far enough himself.

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      9 days ago

      I know he suddenly regretted what he was starting but did he not have the balls or is drowning the universe in blood just such a momentous task that one guy and a planet of extremists can’t do it all in a single generation of time?

      Okay fuck it, gonna reread it now. Maybe this will make me want to watch the show

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        I seem to remember it’s a bit of both. Paul already has the problem of suddenly being able to see all the paths. To stay sane just from that point is commendable. But that’s a lot to carry. Still not as much as his sister, who never had a chance to form her own identity before being hit with knowing everything from past mothers, with everyone in her head.

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        6 days ago

        Haven’t read the last few books yet, but I believe that further into the future there’s a greater threat coming which humanity can only survive by being used to adapting and spreading through the universe.

        Edit: User above said something along the lines of never having understood why stagnant was not actually better than thousands of years of oppression. A very good observation, and not really clearly explained enough in the books.

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          The original books never go further into it, but essentially yes. There’s a single bit of dialogue when Paul’s son talks about hunter seeker robots exterminating mankind. But in the prequel books, during the Butlerian jihad, just before it’s defeat the enemy ai makes copies of itself and launched them to random distant stars. And mind you, this was before faster then light travel (the discovery of which is what actually helped the humans win). But presumably Omnius returns for a reckoning.