If trump retired from public life today, we would all be better off.
He would too, and that’s the problem.
We won’t hold politicians accountable, and if we start, them dropping is enough to make it all go away.
Republicans will never hold him accountable, but even a lot of Dem party leaders really don’t want to, because it sets a precedent that may be used against Dems at some hypothetical point in the future.
They want trump to “settle” to maintain the grey area. And he’s forcing them to actually do it.
“a lot of Dem party leaders really don’t want to, because it sets a precedent that may be used against Dems at some hypothetical point in the future.”
I wish they would get it through their thick fucking skulls that if it were reasonable to apply x consequence for y action unto a Democrat, Republicans would plow forward regardless of whether there’s precedent for it. They’re actively attempting an impeachment without having anything to point to as what triggered the impeachment inquiry. They are just retaliating to lessen the embarrassment of 2 impeachments against their former guy. They don’t give a shit about anything but culture wars, court of public opinion, and kitchen table topics of conversation. If it’s against the rules but it gets their constituents talking favorably, then it’s a winning move for them to go for it. They’re basically nihilists with a lust for power.
It’s not even the first time, they did it 30 years ago when most of today’s party leaders were middle age and active in national politics.
There is zero reason to still not understand, but they won’t give up their leadership positions.
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This is a big risk. If the Supreme Court determines that the CO Supremes decided correctly, that sets the precedent nationally that he is constitutionally ineligible to be president.
I know the court is definitely a friendly one for him in general, but the consequences are extremely high if they don’t go his way.
This court is friendly to conservative causes in general, but not necessarily to Trump. They have their lifetime appointments already, and the eight Justices who are not on Harlan Crow’s payroll have nothing to gain if they prop up Trump’s campaign unnecessarily.
But if they do uphold Trump’s ineligibility, I expect a bunch of Conservative States to throw Biden off the ballot for “giving aid and comfort to out enemies” at the Southern Border, or some other bullshit like that. Thats the Supreme Court ruling that will matter.
They have their lifetime appointments already
This is the one thing that gives me hope. They’re already at the top of their field, they’re there for life, no one can take it from them and they get shovels full of money heaped upon them all day every day. Trump has nothing to give them. He’s also a private citizen right now, and has nothing to threaten them with. If they help him win the presidency, they stand nothing to gain from him but they could lose their power and their lavish lifestyles if he sufficiently fucks up the current power structure.
That would be so shitty. Mexico is not our enemy, there are fugitives in there.
I have no faith in the current Supreme Court, but at the same time I’m really, really curious to see if they take up the case and how it goes. If they rule against Trump, it’s going to set off a revolt from MAGAts everywhere. If they rule for Trump, they’re saying that presidents are above the law, and Biden can essentially do whatever he wants to maintain power, which seems like bad news for our country - but especially Trump who (assuming the current trajectory of the GOP primary) will have to run against Biden.
That’s the thing with dictators ane fascists. They gamble big because it’s the little people that will have to deal with the consequences while they hand-wave away responsibility and blame everything else.
Will be interesting to see how quickly this makes it to the US Supreme Court considering they have been in no hurry to take up other Trump cases.
Those other ones were initially federal cases, so they have their hierarchy of court systems to go through. Colorado and Maine cases were state cases to start. I’m not 100% sure about this, but I believe that if it were to go into the federal system, it would go straight to SCOTUS.
if they can justify handing him the win they’ll take it up immediately and do what they’re paid to do. if they can’t justify handing him the win, they’ll stall indefinitely and hope that he either wins the election and pardons himself or his next coup attempt succeeds.
This is about the primary election ballots. There is no stall indefinitely. The only options available to SCOTUS are to take it up on a highly expediated basis or dismiss it as moot.
they can absolutely stall on this and concede Colorado and Maine without either declaring the president to be above the law or giving other states the legal impetus to kick him off their ballots too. Right now he’s polling so far ahead that he can give up two states without endangering the nomination. If the court sees no choice except to either ignore the case or get him kicked off in every state, they’ll ignore it.
I was wrong originally about the scope of this though, and thank you for your correction there.
There is no additional information in this article. His legal team has not yet appealed, although the Colorado Republicans have appealed.
While the legal team has indicated they intend to appeal, it’s possible they would rather concede Colorado and Maine primaries than risk losing a SCOTUS appeal and see a wave of additional disqualifications. Trump will have no trouble getting the nomination without either state.
If he appeals, there’s no good reason to delay, but he has until the 4th of January for Colorado. He might have a better chance at winning the Maine appeal, so maybe they pretend “there wasn’t time” to appeal Colorado. This way, he can pretend he “won” the whole legal argument, the same way he claimed that the report recommending his prosecution by Congress actually declared him innocent.
do you think that his opponents won’t see his unwillingness to appeal and press the advantage further?
Do you think the GOP has a candidate with enough backbone to actually challenge Trump? Christie is the only one willing to speak his mind, but sadly that doesn’t mean he’s contributing anything of value.
There’s no advantage to gain, because Trump supporters won’t be swayed by literally anything.
there are several running for the nomination. presumably at least one of them wants to win. even if it’s christie.
They are running just in case Trump is forced off the ticket. Otherwise, they hope to be his VP. Except Christie, of course. But none of them will attack Trump, they will only defend against him and hope that his base doesn’t turn on them. None of them can realistically beat Trump, and none of them could conceivably win the general election without Trump voters. If they attack him for any of his obvious flaws, crimes, or odor, they will alienate the people they need to win.
