• anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    I never had any expectations that Mamdani was going to make any real change, not on his own at least. If there’s any real change it’ll be slow at best because he’s part of the Democrat Party now, and being closely watched by them. The real benefits of his election are:

    • Elite Panic
    • Messaging (Socialists are here and more popular than you thought)
    • Cuomo’s humiliation
    • Other Socialists know we can win, so more may declare openly
    • Weakening of Israeli control
  • in such an adversarial situation, i wouldn’t say shit about my strategy until the day i had the power to implement it. there’s no benefit at this moment. the campaign is over.

    so, why tell your targets details about how, specifically, you are going to undermine and purge them 6 weeks ahead of your term?

    • CommunistBear [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      40
      ·
      17 hours ago

      Yeah, I’m not usually a “hiding his powerlevel” type but until Mamdani actually gets sworn in, he doesn’t have power. Playing nice now to not get murdered by the NYPD is probably a safe call

      • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        12 hours ago

        Why would him being in office make him less likely to be murdered by the cops? Wouldn’t they be even closer to him at that point? Keeping tisch on isn’t hiding any power, it’s signaling to capital

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        edit-2
        16 hours ago

        This is my opinion but people are really fucking eager to jump on your dick with a FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD type “gottem” and its so tedious and tiring. So even when he’s getting criticized by zionists for endorsing someone who iirc said some Al Qaeda guy was good, or whatever, you go “oh cool” only to get jumped on by nerds here to tell you that no actually as Mayor of NYC, Israel, he’s going to do Zionism

        Btw for whoever this is referring to, and you should know if you’re reading this, me saying something like “huh weird this is awfully cool for the “Zohran Mamdani sucks” crowd” isn’t invitation for prolonged debate, especially when I am clearly being dismissive when I go “I guess we’ll just have to see how he treats Israel, a country he doesn’t live in, when he’s mayor of NYC, a city that isn’t in that country.”

      • ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        15 hours ago

        Judge him by his actions, hes not a football team, just a vessel for what we want and if he doesnt deliver discard him simple as.

  • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    edit-2
    14 hours ago

    Honestly prepare for this headline, towards a lot of his campaign promises. He ran on a lot of things he has little power or authority to implement, like arresting Netanyahu or constructing a welfare state. A mayor generally does not have the authority to implement such things.

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      14 hours ago

      He had authority over NYPD or I’m wrong? What he said was that he would order the NYPD to arrest Netanyahu if he goes to NY, why that would be something he had no authority to do?

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        edit-2
        14 hours ago

        Actually trying to execute that arrest warrant would be the quickest way to have the feds all over you. US federal law prohibits co operation with the ICC, nevermind diplomatic immunity. Any attempt to arrest Netanyahu, in the United States of all nations, Israel’s biggest ally, would be a publicity stunt that the federal government would overturn.

        • THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          ·
          13 hours ago

          Also what happens if he resists arrest, he would almost certainly have armed body guards and maybe even secret security details. As cool as this would be I don’t see the NYPD executing his entire entourage in the middle of NYC

          • ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            ·
            edit-2
            13 hours ago

            NYPD executing his entire entourage in the middle of NYC

            I remember reading about the Italian communist and film director Passolini’s account of the police (specifically, the Carabinieri) directly following the end of WW2, in that they where mostly composed of working class fresh recruits, in their young 20’s and had the task of breaking up the mafia and the fascist parties iron grip on politics.

            In this sense, when they kicked down the doors of the mob bosses making backroom deals with nazi’s and plugged them with some good old lead, the police were a progressive force.

  • Nacarbac [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    15 hours ago

    “We keep asking him to hold this handful of electric eels near that open elevator shaft with the “wet floor” sign next to it, but he just don’t wanna.”

  • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    17 hours ago

    People in the Zeteo comments section were saying “I’m so glad we finally have a politician who doesn’t dodge the question and answers directly” and I sincerely wonder if we’re watching the same interview. He was asked about tisch, same as here

    • lib1 [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      17 hours ago

      He was also asked directly if police would stop ICE raids and responded that they wouldn’t be instructed to help them. The weasel word bullshit is maddening, especially when people fall for it

      • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        14 hours ago

        Despite how cool it would be, wouldn’t ordering the NYPD to apprehend ICE agents be a direct act of sedition aka grounds for the military to invade the city?

        People are gonna protect their own heads first no matter their politics.

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        15 hours ago

        That particular part doesn’t strike me as weasel wording. There’s a world of difference between:

        • Committing to police stopping ICE raids, which would involve ordering the police to directly confront ICE agents; and
        • Committing to police not helping, which does not involve direct confrontation.
        • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          12 hours ago

          When cops show up between ice and protestors, we know who they’re protecting. LAPD are technically “not assisting” ICE, but they sure as hell when they stand by, hands on holsters, while people are snatched off the streets

  • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    18 hours ago

    Didn’t take long, not even in office yet before he’s betraying his principles. Ah well, I got to see the zionists mad.

  • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    17 hours ago

    for folks who want to read the story (like me) https://archive.is/zplmn

    full text

    One day after NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch accepted his job offer to join the new administration, Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani can’t seem to give a straight answer to questions of police accountability that he had no problem articulating just a few weeks ago on the campaign trail.

    Candidate Mamdani said in early October that he wanted the NYPD’s civilian watchdog, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, to be the “final voice of the question of accountability,” a position that angered police unions because this would put a stop to the all-too-common practice of the police commissioner short-circuiting police accountability—like Commissioner Tisch did earlier this year.

    But in an interview with PIX11 on Wednesday, and at a press conference outside of City Hall on Thursday morning, Mayor-elect Mamdani was evasive on whether he still believes that the police commissioner and the NYPD should respect the CCRB’s determination as final.

    “The CCRB has to deal with questions of petty politics and budget battles,” Mamdani told PIX11, dodging the question of who will have the final disciplinary say and shifting it to a discussion on the CCRB’s lack of resources. “I’m going to put an end to that by fully funding the CCRB so that no longer are we having to question whether we can follow through on a case because we don’t have the requisite amount of money.”

    “So who has the final say?” PIX11 anchor Dan Mannarino pressed.

    “Under the City Charter right now, that’s the commissioner,” Mamdani replied. “The question is, ‘Can the CCRB even follow through on the complaints?’ I’m going to make it my job to follow through on that by fully funding the entity.”

    At Thursday’s presser, Mamdani was asked again about this shift in his position by a Daily News reporter. “You used to say that you wanted the CCRB to have the actual final say. It sounds like you no longer want that,” reporter Chris Sommerfeldt asked.

    “No. What I believe is that the CCRB’s recommendation should be taken seriously, that we should ensure they’re able to make those recommendations time and again, not having to worry about whether they have the funding,” Mamdani answered.

    Candidate Mamdani also said he supported abolishing the NYPD’s gang database, which is 99 percent Black and Latine New Yorkers—some of whom got added to it because they texted things like “Happy birthday gang.” Asked Thursday whether he still believes it should be abolished, Mamdani replied, “I continue to have concerns about the vast dragnet and ways in which many New Yorkers are being put into that database.”

    And what about the NYPD’s Strategic Response Group? “As Mayor, I will disband the SRG, which has cost taxpayers millions in lawsuit settlements + brutalized countless New Yorkers exercising their first amendment rights,” Mamdani tweeted almost a year ago, offering a succinct and accurate history of the SRG’s legacy in New York City, shortly after they were deployed to arrest striking Teamsters.

    Mayor-elect Mamdani is less sure on disbanding the SRG—though he has lots of “concerns,” and assures New Yorkers “we’re going to have a different response.”

    Mamdani, who is meeting with President Donald Trump at the White House on Friday, still has time to figure out how his promises will comport with his governance, but not much. Right now, Commissioner Tisch has to decide whether to allow an NYPD trial to move forward in the case of Wayne Isaacs, the police officer who fatally shot Delrawn Small in 2016. Isaacs was off-duty, and so an NYPD trial judge has sought to toss his internal case; dozens of elected officials and the CCRB have urged Tisch to allow the trial to proceed.

    Loyda Colón, the leader of the Justice Committee, a group that advocates for criminal justice reform and for the families of people who are killed by the NYPD, called Mamdani’s appointment of Tisch “a disturbing endorsement of NYPD’s ongoing violence and corruption” and a sign that “the NYPD’s culture of impunity” will persist.

    “Our city is crying out for a new, transformative approach to public safety,” Colón said in a statement. “Mayor-Elect Mamdani’s decision to retain Jessica Tisch as NYPD Commissioner raises serious concerns about his ability to deliver this.”

    Back in late October, Mamdani told Hell Gate that Tisch would share his values, otherwise she wouldn’t have the job.

    “The police commissioner will follow my lead because at the end of the day, I am the mayor and the one accountable to the people of this city.”

    But in his PIX11 interview, Mamdani seemed much more at ease with Tisch’s record under Mayor Eric Adams. “I am looking to keep her in this position because of the work she has done, not because of the idea that I have of overhauling all of it,” Mamdani said. “It’s about building that together.”