Okay so I know it’s cool to shit on these apps and shit on how much you’re making and everything like that, however without apps like this if you think about it we’d have to be back to driving everywhere to go eat at most places most restaurants profits would be down still and you would have to work at those shit restaurants for even worse pay. And that would be just to barely cover your bills, battery you’d have to work some shitty retail job at night or on the weekends to be able to cover anything which also doesn’t pay that much. So frankly people should just be happy that they have an option to be able to do something like doordash or Uber or Lyft or anything else like that. And honestly if people didn’t like it then they don’t have to do it and if people didn’t want to use the service that they don’t have to use the service. Everybody is always going to complain about some industry and some jobs some place for some reason.
Yes, I did that for several years. Didn’t make much money, and wrecked a car. But the amount of places you can order from now has moved from Chinese and pizza to everything.
Delivery being shit is because capitalism captures the market faster than any federated or worker controlled efforts. Corporate starvation wages are thanks to deregulation by neoliberal capitalist cultists. Needing to drive for food itself is a creation of capitalists that lobbied against walkable cities and public transit. This idea of capitalism letting consumers decide how the economy works is a fantasy.
however without apps like this if you think about it we’d have to be back to driving everywhere to go eat at most places most restaurants profits would be down still and you would have to work at those shit restaurants for even worse pay
How about instead of all that we go back to people making their own food at home and let the restaurant industry die off altogether
For a lot of people, those exist, but I feel like you need to spend some time without taxis for your burrito.
Not in like a punishment way. In like a ‘touch grass’ way. I’ll talk to you again when youve spent a couple months on a remote island eating dried food and enjoying the relatively unfucked nature, cooking and existing for yourself. Maybe have a big dramatic primal struggle or fall in love with a bird or something.
Then when you can come back and acknowledge that the same services can be done non-exploitatively, similar services can be done more efficiently, the life you built on toxic exploitation may need some effort to adapt to a world that doesn’t have toxic exploitation¹, and most of your underlying assumptions are about made-up imaginary bullshit that doesn’t represent anything real anymore–if it ever even did in the first place, we can talk.
¹and in the event of the two being irreconcilable, I consider your life much much more expendable.
Wow what a rambling incoherent non-answer they could ever be posted. I can’t a crap tone I don’t rely on these services I do probably 40 to 50 nights a year of camping I also cook pretty much all my food I’ve been a professional chef in the past and I understand the industry the process and the how to. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t get home late at night and want to order some food or want to spend a weekend in my pajamas and not leave the house at all. Services exist for a reason. There’s a reason Chinese food delivery and pizza delivery has been a thing for decades. And those places always say they’re exploiting the employees as well. Before it was doordash and Uber and all the other companies doing it they’re claiming how bad the wages for those companies were. Bill always be something to complain about and they’ll always be people like you that just say don’t use the service and I say fucking use it. That’s what it’s there for. If they didn’t want to be paid to do it they could go find something else to do.
The problem with these apps isn’t that they’re providing the wrong service. The problem is that I am a fucking employee of door dash being treated like I’m an independent contractor. As if I’m a tradesman, a plumber, being brought in on a contract for a plumbing job. I’m not. I’m a delivery driver. Pizza joints the nation over managed to have employee drivers for decades, door dash can manage it too
Okay so I know it’s cool to shit on these apps and shit on how much you’re making and everything like that, however without apps like this if you think about it we’d have to be back to driving everywhere to go eat at most places most restaurants profits would be down still and you would have to work at those shit restaurants for even worse pay. And that would be just to barely cover your bills, battery you’d have to work some shitty retail job at night or on the weekends to be able to cover anything which also doesn’t pay that much. So frankly people should just be happy that they have an option to be able to do something like doordash or Uber or Lyft or anything else like that. And honestly if people didn’t like it then they don’t have to do it and if people didn’t want to use the service that they don’t have to use the service. Everybody is always going to complain about some industry and some jobs some place for some reason.
Food Delivery Services and drivers existed before these apps
Yes, I did that for several years. Didn’t make much money, and wrecked a car. But the amount of places you can order from now has moved from Chinese and pizza to everything.
Delivery being shit is because capitalism captures the market faster than any federated or worker controlled efforts. Corporate starvation wages are thanks to deregulation by neoliberal capitalist cultists. Needing to drive for food itself is a creation of capitalists that lobbied against walkable cities and public transit. This idea of capitalism letting consumers decide how the economy works is a fantasy.
How about instead of all that we go back to people making their own food at home and let the restaurant industry die off altogether
Nah. That’s idiotic thinking.
I can’t tell if this is kinda inept unfunny satire or you’re just choking on boot. Please clarify.
Give me a better option then. Go ahead.
For a lot of people, those exist, but I feel like you need to spend some time without taxis for your burrito.
Not in like a punishment way. In like a ‘touch grass’ way. I’ll talk to you again when youve spent a couple months on a remote island eating dried food and enjoying the relatively unfucked nature, cooking and existing for yourself. Maybe have a big dramatic primal struggle or fall in love with a bird or something.
Then when you can come back and acknowledge that the same services can be done non-exploitatively, similar services can be done more efficiently, the life you built on toxic exploitation may need some effort to adapt to a world that doesn’t have toxic exploitation¹, and most of your underlying assumptions are about made-up imaginary bullshit that doesn’t represent anything real anymore–if it ever even did in the first place, we can talk.
¹and in the event of the two being irreconcilable, I consider your life much much more expendable.
Wow what a rambling incoherent non-answer they could ever be posted. I can’t a crap tone I don’t rely on these services I do probably 40 to 50 nights a year of camping I also cook pretty much all my food I’ve been a professional chef in the past and I understand the industry the process and the how to. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t get home late at night and want to order some food or want to spend a weekend in my pajamas and not leave the house at all. Services exist for a reason. There’s a reason Chinese food delivery and pizza delivery has been a thing for decades. And those places always say they’re exploiting the employees as well. Before it was doordash and Uber and all the other companies doing it they’re claiming how bad the wages for those companies were. Bill always be something to complain about and they’ll always be people like you that just say don’t use the service and I say fucking use it. That’s what it’s there for. If they didn’t want to be paid to do it they could go find something else to do.
The problem with these apps isn’t that they’re providing the wrong service. The problem is that I am a fucking employee of door dash being treated like I’m an independent contractor. As if I’m a tradesman, a plumber, being brought in on a contract for a plumbing job. I’m not. I’m a delivery driver. Pizza joints the nation over managed to have employee drivers for decades, door dash can manage it too