• Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
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    Xi Jinping is not a dictator by any stretch of the word. The Communist Party of China enjoys some of the highest government approval rates in the world, by a long shot, according to western sources:

    Notice how Russia’s government approval rate is low. As a tankie myself, this is easily explained by the fact that they’re not communists, and in fact the government is shitting on everything that communism did in the region in the past century. Ukraine had no war with Russia during Socialism, and in fact was saved from Nazi Extermination and thrived under Soviet Rule.

    Since you care so much about Ukrainians:

    Surely, seeing the horrifying demographic crisis taking place in Ukraine for rhe past 35 years coinciding with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, you condemn its contemporary capitalist government and want socialism back? If so, welcome aboard, comrade

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      Okay, but have you considered that the 90% of those 1.3B Chinese residents who like their government and want to keep it are simply brainwashed, ignorant, or stupid?

      What if White People simply know better? What if there’s some kind of burden White People carry, where they’re socially obligated to go all around the world and politely inform the native populations that their lives are Bad Aktuly and they need to do things the White Way? What if imperialism is a moral imperative, because White People are just better at doing government than their non-White Peers?

      Have you considered that, though? I’m just being realistic! I have science! Read the Bell Curve! Look at the brain pans! The Slavic Skull simply cannot contain the ideas necessary for a liberal democracy, so we have to bomb them until they behave. If you suggest otherwise, you’re actually doing genocide by not invading them.

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        Okay, but have you considered that the 90% of those 1.3B Chinese residents who like their government and want to keep it are simply brainwashed, ignorant, or stupid?

        Silly tank E. The thought police, which are totally real (trust me bro), will come after any who dare express dissent. This is why we enlightened westerners with our Enlightenment™ values need to support the US invasion of China across the Taiwan Strait while also pretending it was actually China who struck first (just like the heckin’ unwholesome Vietcong 😡 did at the Gulf of Tonkin) and that Taiwan is actually a sovereign state fighting off an imperialist invader instead of a puppet government for the wholesome keanu chungus defenders of democracy.

        Slobber Tie Won! Down with Zizzy Ping!

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      Gotta love tankie cope graphs. “approval rating” in a country where dissent is criminal? Seems legit.

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        An approval rating is given for Russia too, with much stricter “criminal dissent” laws than China. Do you suspect that the western institution which made this graph is evil CPC propaganda? This data is literally portrayed in Statista, it doesn’t get more western capitalist than that.

        Now, don’t forget I’m waiting for your condemnation of the capitalist atrocities against the Ukrainian population since 1990. Otherwise, to other commenters, you may appear as a dishonest propagandist leveraging Ukrainian suffering only to condemn things you already stood against.

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        Dissent isn’t criminal, undermining the socialist system is. Speak with Chinese citizens yourselves, the majority are proud of their country and enjoy the system they’ve been collectively building for themselves.

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          Oh, I have. What’s really fun is talking to Chinese expats who no longer fear government reprisal. I did a lot of interviews as part of a thesis on the concept of a social panopticon and panoptic influence.

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            Only speaking to expats and not actual citizens is like talking only to Cuban exiles about Cuba and not Cubans themselves.

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              Chinese citizens will only criticize their government when they’re 100% sure it’ll never get back to the government, and that trust is extremely difficult to achieve because they are absolutely terrified of their government’s ability to influence even their closest friends and family.

              If you honestly believe there’s no public dissent because everyone just loves their oligarchs so much… I don’t know what to say. That’s just fully stupid.

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                Citation needed, otherwise this is just chauvanism. You just pulled all of this right out of your ass. China doesn’t have oligarchs, they have administrators and government officials, and the CPC itself has over 100 million members.

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                    China is in the developing stages of socialism. Billionaires exist, but are gradually decreasing in number over time as the working class gradually increases in prosperity. China has not yet achieved communism, where distribution is based on need. Instead, distribution is mostly based on the market for now, according to labor primary.

                    If you’re going to quote Marx, the least you could do is read him.