One particular email exchange included in the House Oversight Committee’s recent release of 20,000 pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein has resulted in an online frenzy, with questions circulating as to who a mysterious “Bubba” could be, who, according to the email, is suggested to have per...
Maybe the real reason Trump doesn’t want these files released? He was sucking off some guy named Bubba?
Roman attitudes towards sex were based on power and control. It wasn’t seen as a connection between two individuals, that was secondary. It was informally allowed for a high ranking official to have sex with individuals below them in status including other men and adolescents without harm to one’s reputation.
Having sex with a man of higher status was seen as emasculating and worthy of ridicule. Essentially it was seen as taking on the role of the woman in a relationship and women were very much subservient to men in this society.
Christianity has had a cultural impact on some of these views but there are definitely times when it seems like modern Western cultural attitudes (especially amongst regressives) have not progressed very far beyond that old conceptualization of sexual relationships.
Tl;dr: Having a sexual encounter with a man of higher status is feminizing which is more damning than crimes against humanity to the backwards minded.
Ancient India and China (largely due to Dharmic and Daoist philosophies). The political aspects which make up 80% of the Kama Sutra are undeniably feminist by many standards, promoting female education, financial autonomy, right to divorce, agency and consent. It also promotes respectful treatment towards female sex workers. It’s not perfect, but it sought to describe an ideal perspective towards sex according to Dharmic philosophy at the time.
Ancient Egypt, Mesoamerican and other Indigineous cultures also did not perceive sex in what I’d describe as a simple minded penetrative dominance.
While the Tao Te Ching is Taoism’s primary text, it’s basically just Taoist philosophy distilled to its essential form. It doesn’t give you very much beyond “there is this thing called the Tao (the way), and here’s a bit about what that tells us about the universe and how to exist in it, at a very high level.”
There are other Taoist texts which are less lofty, and much more comprehensive and practical. The biggest is the Daozong (Taoist Canon). It’s massive, so I’m guessing you’d find what you asked about in there. The only problem is finding a good translation if you can’t read any (ancient) Chinese.
Roman attitudes towards sex were based on power and control. It wasn’t seen as a connection between two individuals, that was secondary. It was informally allowed for a high ranking official to have sex with individuals below them in status including other men and adolescents without harm to one’s reputation.
Having sex with a man of higher status was seen as emasculating and worthy of ridicule. Essentially it was seen as taking on the role of the woman in a relationship and women were very much subservient to men in this society.
Christianity has had a cultural impact on some of these views but there are definitely times when it seems like modern Western cultural attitudes (especially amongst regressives) have not progressed very far beyond that old conceptualization of sexual relationships.
Tl;dr: Having a sexual encounter with a man of higher status is feminizing which is more damning than crimes against humanity to the backwards minded.
Which ancient cultures have seen it differently?
Ancient India and China (largely due to Dharmic and Daoist philosophies). The political aspects which make up 80% of the Kama Sutra are undeniably feminist by many standards, promoting female education, financial autonomy, right to divorce, agency and consent. It also promotes respectful treatment towards female sex workers. It’s not perfect, but it sought to describe an ideal perspective towards sex according to Dharmic philosophy at the time.
Ancient Egypt, Mesoamerican and other Indigineous cultures also did not perceive sex in what I’d describe as a simple minded penetrative dominance.
I’ve read multiple translations of the Tao Te Ching I don’t recall any guidance either way on sex and power.
Happy to be corrected.
Also understand that daoism is bigger than that and it may come from there.
While the Tao Te Ching is Taoism’s primary text, it’s basically just Taoist philosophy distilled to its essential form. It doesn’t give you very much beyond “there is this thing called the Tao (the way), and here’s a bit about what that tells us about the universe and how to exist in it, at a very high level.”
There are other Taoist texts which are less lofty, and much more comprehensive and practical. The biggest is the Daozong (Taoist Canon). It’s massive, so I’m guessing you’d find what you asked about in there. The only problem is finding a good translation if you can’t read any (ancient) Chinese.