Two ton blocks of steel moving a excessive speeds and making a lot of noise isn’t something you want around homes and people.
I think Lemmy takes car abolition too far sometimes, but yes, if you think about it it’s not different from the Charlie Chaplin giant factory gears that used to be a thing. It’s just that they’re so ubiquitous they couldn’t be banned or enclosed when the other unsafe machines were.
Sure, in the centre it makes sense. But to blanket 30kmh over the entire city? There are roads designed for 100 or 80, where suddenly you have to drive 30. Just annoying, not safer.
Amsterdam did this, it’s great.
We also prioritise bicycle lanes and pedestrians. Getting rid of cars is the best thigns for a city
Public transport followed by safe cycling lanes are the best way to get people out of cars.
Free, extremely convenient bicycle/motorcycle parking helps too.
Amsterdam arguably has the best public infrastructure, I’ve done a fair amount of traveling and I can’t think of better public infrastructure.
Two ton blocks of steel moving a excessive speeds and making a lot of noise isn’t something you want around homes and people.
You might need to spend some time in a city like Amsterdam to understand, I loved cars before I lived here now I feel very differently.
I think Lemmy takes car abolition too far sometimes, but yes, if you think about it it’s not different from the Charlie Chaplin giant factory gears that used to be a thing. It’s just that they’re so ubiquitous they couldn’t be banned or enclosed when the other unsafe machines were.
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Hmm. Does Amsterdam do much with busses? A limit like that would apply to them too.
Amsterdam also has a metro system.
Within the city center and within neighbourhoods, traffic does not move faster than 30 anyways.
Busses and trams often have their own lanes where they can go the speed they want
Well that makes sense.
You’re much less likely to die when hit by a speeding bus than a slow car.
I don’t think you understand what good infrastructure looks like, if you manage to get hit by a bus in Amsterdam you really fucked up.
There are literally millions of drunk tourists here every year and they’re fine.
No, it isn’t.
Sure, in the centre it makes sense. But to blanket 30kmh over the entire city? There are roads designed for 100 or 80, where suddenly you have to drive 30. Just annoying, not safer.
The article opens with:
Now, do you really think “where appropriate” includes roads built for 100km/h?
Yes
Perhaps the idea is to dissuade people from driving unless necessary.
It’s Amsterdam. There’s excellent public transport and bike infrastructure.
And if you still need a car, guess what? This initiative means there’s less traffic for you to deal with.