• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah this seems like cruel and unusual treatment for the dog.

      At least with average pet standards in the US, owners take pets for walks, bring pets to playdates with others, take pets to the vet regularly for check ups, etc

      I don’t see this story any different from Maxwell using this puppy for emotional support. There’s nothing wrong with that, so long as the animals has its rights upheld. Don’t think puppies can do this much in jail.

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    I recall there being a specific rule with that prison program that barred her because her crimes were sexual in nature.

    Egg on my face for assuming rules would apply to the President’s special lil’ child trafficker.

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      To be fair this presidency is showing the flaws in our system. Too much of our society is based on “rules” not law. A president can change the rules in an agency as long as they follow the law*. Basically congress needs to step up and codify many of these rules.

      *That’s how it’s supposed to work, but you know Trump and the Supreme Court are not great

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        While I agree that we need more of the rules codified in law, the law hasn’t exactly stopped them from doing a lot of stuff either.

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          Re-read the comment. This was already addressed.

          Either way when codified it will give power to a future administration to punish those that break the law if we ever get a president with the stomach for it

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    Oh god please at least give her an adult dog? She’s played with enough “puppies”, has she not?

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    Prisons are for separating people from society where they can do damage, they don’t have to be cruel

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      They also don’t have to be cushy and provide preferential treatment to people willing to perjure themselves to protect those in power.

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            Unlike you I’m not a vindictive person; I would cry because my child was raped not because of how their rapist was treated.

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              Calling me vindictive against pedophilia isn’t the burn you think it is. Yes, I am absolutely vindictive against pedophilia, I don’t think it should be rewarded. You reward behavior you want more of. You should be on a list if you think it should be rewarded.

              What an insane fucking world.

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      The issue is preferential treatment, especially for sick sex offenders like her 🤮.

      If she got a puppy why not everybody else?

      She gets to ruin hundreds of lives and live like a queen in a prison? While people for much much smaller crimes are treated much much worse. How is this fair? How is this justice being served?

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        Yeah that’s the injustice here, people want her to suffer because they don’t like her. They think having a dog isn’t fair because she shouldn’t be happy, not because this privilege isn’t extended to other prisoners

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      True. But there are other prisoners who deserve puppies and kittens. Not her. I would rather see a few murderers get an innocent animal to care for and learn how to love instead of that fucking bitch.

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        Yeah I agree, I mentioned it in another comment of mine but the injustice here is the privilege that isn’t being extended to other prisoners. I think it’s clear that people who wrote the article and the majority of comments here don’t believe that to be the injustice. They clearly think this lady should be made to suffer and that her having a dog is in of itself an injustice because it might bring her happiness. I disagree with that.

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      although I agree with you in general. it’s frustrating that rich people get rich people jail, which is basically what all jails should be, but everyone else gets forced labour torture camps for minor drug offences.

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        Yeah. That is definitely the injustice here that people are ignoring because they simply hate this specific prisoners and believe she should suffer.

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      Imagine you’re building more comfortable prisons to house all the people incarcerated in the US. Who do you move to the comfy prisons first? Elderly inmates? Non-violent offenders? While all the inmates deserve better treatment, I’d prioritize those who have committed less severe crimes.

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      That’s absolutely true, but they’re also for punishment and rehabilitation. Giving her access to a puppy in my eyes is the opposite of punishment, and she ain’t getting rehabilitated. This person destroyed thousands of lives if not more including those of children. This monster deserves zero sympathy and zero pleasures. The fact that she’s in a cushy prison is disgusting and wrong. There’s no justice for the countless victims and their families.

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        Could anything be done to her to make it right or to give justice to the victims?

        I’d say no. So there’s no point in trying to do that. The only closure that can be given is the knowledge that she will never be able to hurt people again. Having a dog doesn’t change that.

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      They shouldn’t be nice either. She committed real crimes and ruined the lives of dozens of women/girls. She shouldn’t get to play with puppies or touch the internet. She should be made to live the rest of her life working to apologize and make “right” whatever way possible.

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        I’m general, I think jails should be humane a place for healing and recovery.

        HOWEVER, what pisses me off is that rich pedophiles get the noce jail, while minor drug offences get forced labour torture camps. two tier justice system.

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        I don’t see why that matters. No one can undo the damage she’s done least of all her. At this point she just needs to be separated from society. That in of itself is the punishment

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          Are professionally bred domesticated pet animals not a perk of being a part of society?

          As long as it’s all offline or receive-only, should she also get any TV channels or blu-ray movies or game consoles she’s willing to pay for?

          I’m not here to advocate for cruelty or dehumanizing people who have committed crimes. Just wondering about the thought process.

          I bet for most people who aren’t “internationally infamous monster” level criminals, having a pet to care for could be a valuable part of rehabilitation. Maybe they could even take the pet with them after release to give them incentive to get up and go to work to support it.

          In this case though, it’s all annoying because we have a very very bad person getting outrageously special treatment for the shadiest of reasons.

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            Is that why people are actually mad though? Because of the privilege that isnt being extended to other prisoners or because they want this person to suffer. I think it’s quite clear that they do perceive the injustice here being that she has a dog, not that other prisoners don’t have dogs.

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              She didn’t give a flying fuck if children suffered, so why are we giving her puppies? She deserves to be rewarded for her atrocities?? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you a pedophile looking for sympathy’s?? Should we also reward puppies and lollipops to the IDF soldiers raping prisoners with knives??

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                Because we’re not like her. Being cruel accomplishes nothing. Her punishment is being segregated from society. That is enough, anything else is vindictive.

                I think this topic might be triggering you, maybe filter out the names of the people mentioned in the title so you don’t have to see this in future.

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      Doesn’t matter. They already have the evidence they need and aren’t releasing it.

      This is to keep her from speaking publicly.

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        My assumption is that between epsteins ‘suicide’ and her arrest, she set up some sort of Deadman’s switch on her blackmail, assuring that trump and the rest of them go down if she dies.

        My assumption is that Trump is semi in on it- the blackmail epstei collected on the rest of the republican party is what ensured maga control / keeps them in line.

        Therefore hes in a sort of mexican standoff with ghislane- her legal predicament and keeping her from being able to act is his leverage on her. he can’t let her go free; then she flees, he loses control over her, and with her his leverage on the party, and shes now free to force him, and the rest of the repiblicans to do what she wants. He can’t kill her, like epstein, because A, deadmans switch, and B, again, he loses leverage over the party.