• waddle_dee@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    You want the most uncomfortable truth of it all? What are you doing to stop this? What’s your role, mate? Or, do you want somebody else to have blood on their hands? That’s the crux of your argument. You want the NG to disregard these orders? Congratulations, you just helped fast track the military being filled with onlya sychophants. You want to NG to fight back against the government? That’s delightful. Will you be taking up arms, or just watching? If you’re gonna fight, why haven’t you already? Your rhetoric is empty, complacent, and devoid of any real action. Which…about sums up Americans when you think about it.

    I never said you were too soft. You are not tactful, or strategic in your thinking. Which means, you don’t actually want to fight. You just want to feel good hyperbolizing in online debates.

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      23 hours ago

      M8 civilians don’t take oaths to protect the constitution. So asking one to do your job for you is in poor taste.

      I get where you’re coming from. But collectively he is right. Individually you’re right. But eventually those two are gunna collide. We all know it. Because we all feel it. It is what it is. Until the battle lines are truly drawn we can’t naught but look or risk being sold a lie and acting on it.

      Collective action is the smart play.

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        20 hours ago

        Firstly, I am not US Military. I come from a very diverse background of people, some of which are US Military, which is only where my knowledge of certain military aspects come from. My response was delegated in such a way to demonstrate that the commenter I was replying to, had no forethought for what they were asking. If you’re in a situation where the US Military needs to turn on itself, civilians, by proxy, are involved in the war effort. That’s how rebellions work. They are, almost, never fought solely within the faction of government in which it’s taking place; not peacefully, that is. If that was not clear, then the fault is entirely my own.

        Secondly, saying that, [collectively he’s right, but individually I’m right,] is by nature a paradox. If you’d like to point out which aspects of their argument you feel are correct, as well for mine, then you are welcome to do so.

        Lastly, the whole entirety of my point is that, it behooves one strategic effort to keep as many allies within the current system, for as long as possible, to maintain access to weapons, skills, and intel, that would be needed for such a desperate war.

        P.S. I’ve said this before, but the sad fact is, until middle class, white, white collar Americans start losing their rights en masse, there will be no civil war. We’re heading that way, but not there. The administration and SCOTUS, are being quite clever to not bother that base in such a way. So Americans, by and large, will continue this trajectory of getting up, going to work, and putting food on the table. Most Americans don’t care enough about the poor, the immigrants, the unhoused, the minorities, to take drastic enough action to initiate change on a large scale. I do think you are very apt in your words, “Until battle are truly drawn…”. We truly do not have enough information to act on. I appreciate your comment wholly and I enjoy being able to discuss things thoughtfully and respectfully. If you feel I have not done so, let me know as well.