Americans are divided in who they blame more for the shutdown: In a choice between congressional Democrats and congressional Republicans, 32% blame Democrats most, 35% Republicans, and 28% both equally. Compared to when we asked this question in the October 17 - 20 Economist / YouGov survey, the share blaming mostly Republicans has fallen 4 percentage points and the share blaming both sides equally has gone up by 4 points.
I’m happy that the Dems held out. Hell, I’m happy that the majority is still holding out, despite those breaking ranks looking to undermine the effort. But that’s not the same as pretending we are the fucking majority
Funny that you didn’t post the parts immediately before and after that snippet. Before:
A YouGov survey released Friday found 32 percent of respondents blame Democrats for the shutdown, while 35 percent fault Republicans and 28 percent say both parties are equally responsible.
After:
But over the past month, net approval for how parties are handling the shutdown has worsened for both President Trump (-21 to -27) and congressional Republicans (-23 to -27). Net approval for congressional Democrats has stayed low but mostly unchanged (-25 to -26) since October, according to YouGov.
You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.
A shutdown, furthermore, that most voters were against to begin with.
Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?
Who would you blame more if there is a shutdown of the federal government at the end of the month, the Democrats in Congress, Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress or both equally? Or have you not heard enough to say?
You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.
“More people blamed the Republicans, but most people are not in support of the shutdown and the numbers for the Dems are worsening”
Yes, clearly this contradicts what I initially commented.
Go back to remedial literacy. Get a passing grade this time, if you can understand which of the funny symbols that is.
Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?
I’m sorry that you’re illiterate.
Grow a spine.
Grow a brain, or a sense of morality. But pro-genocide bootlickers like you revel in the deaths of minorities, if only it’s done by the fascists wearing the right team colors. That’s why you deny the Uyghur Genocide, after all.
You’re right, because I don’t support genocide. We are clearly very far apart on that matter.
Sorry that I’ve been calling out Palestinian genocide for over a decade. I know that’s terribly inconvenient for bootlickers like you who desperately want others to be your mirror image. I’m sorry that my position on genocide isn’t determined by team colors.
Of course that’s me. I have not seen reliable evidence that a genocide is or was happening there. As I recall from a previous conversation, your rather silly stance on that was that you don’t have to provide evidence to support a claim of genocide, on the basis that I’m a fascist, which you concluded from the fact that I deny your baseless claims of genocide. A classic, textbook case of circular logic.
I said that I don’t support any genocide. I don’t believe that anybody should start genociding Uighurs. I do deny genocides, such as the supposed “white genocide” that fascists go on about, or any other claims of genocide that aren’t supported by evidence. In fact, I deny pretty much any claim that isn’t supported by evidence. Apparently, your position is that if some random person tries to tell me that France is genociding Belgians, I’m supposed to accept that claim without question or else I’m a fascist, unworthy of the privilege of getting to see your evidence.
Which brings me back to the question I posed on the linked post: Do you condemn the ongoing US genocide of Italians? Are you, or are you not, a genocide denier? Simple question, really. If you accept that it’s happening, then there’s no need to provide evidence, if you deny, you’re a fascist and I won’t provide you evidence because fascists don’t deserve evidence, or something like that. Sorry, I’m not really as good at doing the whole witch trial thing as you are.
Of course that’s me. I have not seen reliable evidence that a genocide is or was happening there.
Thank you for confirming your genocide denial, fascist.
As I recall from a previous conversation,
The ‘previous conversation’ was you whinging in my inbox after you were banned after a lengthy and extensive denial of the Uyghur Genocide despite another commenter giving you ample evidence and examples on the historical photographs community I moderated. You wanted to restart the argument with me, and I told you to go fuck yourself for being a fascist, fascist.
Ah, here is the entirety of my side of that ‘conversation’:
Look how clearly I state I’m going to engage with your sealioning, but then assert that evidence is irrelevant! 😭
Oh, wait, no, I just told you to fuck off after you came crawling into my inbox.
Really? Could you please link to this reliable evidence of genocide that I’ve never seen, that was supposedly presented to me? I’d be thrilled to finally see it, so I can finally renounce all my tankie ways and admit that I was wrong.
Let me guess, this “evidence” all traced back to Adrian Zenz, the same way it has every single time one of you types it into Google and posts whatever articles sound like they support your conclusions without reading past the headline.
Did you even read your own source? <5% of registered dems blamed the dems, and ~21% of registered independents.
https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/53352-are-people-changing-their-minds-about-the-shutdown
A shutdown, furthermore, that most voters were against to begin with.
I’m happy that the Dems held out. Hell, I’m happy that the majority is still holding out, despite those breaking ranks looking to undermine the effort. But that’s not the same as pretending we are the fucking majority
We can all agree shithole politicians caused this shutdown.
Funny that you didn’t post the parts immediately before and after that snippet. Before:
After:
You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.
Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?
Grow a spine.
“More people blamed the Republicans, but most people are not in support of the shutdown and the numbers for the Dems are worsening”
Yes, clearly this contradicts what I initially commented.
Go back to remedial literacy. Get a passing grade this time, if you can understand which of the funny symbols that is.
I’m sorry that you’re illiterate.
Grow a brain, or a sense of morality. But pro-genocide bootlickers like you revel in the deaths of minorities, if only it’s done by the fascists wearing the right team colors. That’s why you deny the Uyghur Genocide, after all.
Looked in a mirror lately?
I don’t support any genocide, the way you do.
This you, denialist bootlicker?
You’re right, because I don’t support genocide. We are clearly very far apart on that matter.
Sorry that I’ve been calling out Palestinian genocide for over a decade. I know that’s terribly inconvenient for bootlickers like you who desperately want others to be your mirror image. I’m sorry that my position on genocide isn’t determined by team colors.
You are one of the loudest champions for the bidenyahu genocide.
Of course that’s me. I have not seen reliable evidence that a genocide is or was happening there. As I recall from a previous conversation, your rather silly stance on that was that you don’t have to provide evidence to support a claim of genocide, on the basis that I’m a fascist, which you concluded from the fact that I deny your baseless claims of genocide. A classic, textbook case of circular logic.
I said that I don’t support any genocide. I don’t believe that anybody should start genociding Uighurs. I do deny genocides, such as the supposed “white genocide” that fascists go on about, or any other claims of genocide that aren’t supported by evidence. In fact, I deny pretty much any claim that isn’t supported by evidence. Apparently, your position is that if some random person tries to tell me that France is genociding Belgians, I’m supposed to accept that claim without question or else I’m a fascist, unworthy of the privilege of getting to see your evidence.
Which brings me back to the question I posed on the linked post: Do you condemn the ongoing US genocide of Italians? Are you, or are you not, a genocide denier? Simple question, really. If you accept that it’s happening, then there’s no need to provide evidence, if you deny, you’re a fascist and I won’t provide you evidence because fascists don’t deserve evidence, or something like that. Sorry, I’m not really as good at doing the whole witch trial thing as you are.
Thank you for confirming your genocide denial, fascist.
The ‘previous conversation’ was you whinging in my inbox after you were banned after a lengthy and extensive denial of the Uyghur Genocide despite another commenter giving you ample evidence and examples on the historical photographs community I moderated. You wanted to restart the argument with me, and I told you to go fuck yourself for being a fascist, fascist.
Ah, here is the entirety of my side of that ‘conversation’:
Look how clearly I state I’m going to engage with your sealioning, but then assert that evidence is irrelevant! 😭
Oh, wait, no, I just told you to fuck off after you came crawling into my inbox.
Really? Could you please link to this reliable evidence of genocide that I’ve never seen, that was supposedly presented to me? I’d be thrilled to finally see it, so I can finally renounce all my tankie ways and admit that I was wrong.
Let me guess, this “evidence” all traced back to Adrian Zenz, the same way it has every single time one of you types it into Google and posts whatever articles sound like they support your conclusions without reading past the headline.