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    Turn off all electrical power, even the emergency lights, to any building, especially large multistorey or sprawling buildings and everything instantly turns into a deep dark neverending cave.

    It’s only the bright lights that make it all feel like it’s a modern living space.

    Without the light, everything and every covered space is a cave.

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    Tbh we are cave adapted organisms to a point. Remember when you got a fever or a cold, and all you wanted to do was curl up in a corner of the room with your blanket all over you? That is inherently the human brain trying to go into a “cave”, a more secluded area with less things that don’t overwhelm it. We’ve evolved to go into “return to cave” mode when we feel sick.

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      Archaeologist here, it’s heavily disputed if caves were that integral to our evolution. Issue is lack of studies. In much of Europe caves were very popular amongst researchers, but new studies began finding a ton of sites outside of caves. And remember this part of our evolution is not very significant. 99% of our evolutionary history we lived in Africa. Unfortunately the data is not as good and the areas not as well researched to say.

      We do know many cultures have lived in areas for tens of thousands of years without access to caves.

      What we can say though is people in regions with caves will use them at least seasonally

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        I feel like there is also a lot of a certain bias(selection bias? Observation bias?) i cant remember the name of. Basically, human sites inside of caves SHOULD be the thing we find most often because they are less likely to be eroded away. Whereas human sites that were right next to a river are much more difficult to find because the river has expanded, eroding away most of the evidence. You are left with small artifacts instead of paintings, fire pits, bone collections, etc.

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      As an aside, these hands are created by placing a hand on the wall and painting around it so your attempt at reframing this wholesomeness as hate crimes against the critter bros is simply ignorant, how dare you

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    Rock doves (pigeons) evolved to live on cliff faces. Cities are covered in artificial cliff faces, i.e. buildings.

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    I have a symbiotic relationship with spiders. They bite me, I scratch the bite to ensure my limb is still there.

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    I was thinking the other day how common are caves? I’ve never see one outside of certain widely known public locations.

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      To be fair, there’s a lot of caves that don’t get much attention because they’re too small to fit inside of. There’s a lot of micro-caves that’s not much more than a little hollow behind a crack in a rock, perfect for bugs.

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      I think the idea that early humans lived mostly in caves comes likely from the fact that caves are very stable environments where you can find remains of a fireplace or the like hundreds of thousands of years later.

      But what if most early humans lived in wooden huts like people in the Amazon or Papua-New Guinea do today, or in igloos like the people north of the polar circle? You would not find the remains of an igloo cause it would have been a wet spot in the next spring.

      So, the notion that many humans lived in caves might just be survivorship bias.

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        Yeah that’s my brain is trying to get to. Like im sure some humans did but no way this was ultra common. Id imagine its the equivalent like living in a castle.

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        It’s more common to find that stone age humans lived under rock outcroppings than caves proper as it happens, partly because it is much more common to find an outcropping than a sufficiently large cave. They also simply didn’t have many permanent settlements until the development of agriculture so either way the groups wouldn’t stay long

        More common than both is indeed wooden and leather shelters, but you don’t find surviving paintings on leather from 50,000 BC

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        I looked up American caves it looks mostly along mountain ranges which makes sense but then I check European caves map and it was just all of Europe lol. I guess just need to off road the trails.

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    We are cave adapted creatures, and we tend to turn the world into more caves, covering everything with rock-like materials.

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    Millipedes come running in this house. Maybe in the fall? Anyway, into the vivarium they go! Good luck with the tiny tarantula. Haven’t seen her in weeks, but I assume she’s hiding under the toy Star Destroyer.

    Would they rather the bigger tank? The one with the random frog and chameleon? Not sure they’d eat millipedes, but I bet they’re not afraid to try.

    And where my blue isopods?! She get hungry?