My Editorial- Warning - if the headline of the article wasn’t enough to ruin your day, the rest of the article will. God damn America
https://apnews.com/article/indiana-house-cleaner-shot-wrong-address-2068589a1c3de79c36d88430674fae78
Authorities are considering whether to charge an Indiana homeowner who they say shot and killed a woman working as a house cleaner after she mistakenly went to the wrong address.
Police officers found 32-year-old Maria Florinda Rios Perez dead just before 7 a.m. Wednesday on the front porch of the home in Whitestown, an Indianapolis suburb of about 10,000 people, according to a police news release. She was part of a cleaning crew that had gone to the wrong address, the release said.
Rios Perez’s husband, Mauricio Velazquez, told WRTV in Indianapolis that he and his wife had been cleaning homes for seven months. Velazquez said he was standing with her at the home’s front door on Wednesday morning but didn’t realize she had been shot until she fell into his arms, bleeding.
On a fundraising page, her brother described Rios Perez as a mother of four children. Police said Friday that she was from Indianapolis but the family plans to bury her in Guatemala, according to her obituary and her brother’s fundraising page. The Associated Press was not able to reach family members directly on Friday.
Authorities have not publicly identified the shooter. Police turned over the findings from their investigation to Boone County Prosecutor Kent Eastwood on Friday afternoon, but the prosecutor said the decision on whether to file charges won’t be easy.
The case brings Indiana’s castle doctrine laws squarely into play, he said. Those laws allow a person to use reasonable force, including deadly force, to stop what they reasonably believe is an unlawful entry into their dwelling. Thirty-one states have similar laws on the books, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
In similar cases elsewhere, prosecutors have successfully brought charges against people who opened fire outside their homes, including a guilty plea by an 86-year-old man who shot Ralph Yarl after the Black teenager came to his door by mistake. In New York, a man was convicted of second-degree murder for fatally shooting a woman inside a car who came down his driveway by mistake.
Eastwood said he will have to pore over investigators’ findings to understand what happened in the moments leading up to the shooting. That means reviewing “every second” of witnesses’ taped interviews and doorbell footage if police bring him any, he said.
“You need to understand all the details so you can understand what happened and what is reasonable,” Eastwood said. “One of the hardest things today in this world is to agree on what’s reasonable. As a prosecutor, those are things we have to grapple with.”
This story corrects the name of the victim to Maria Florinda Rios Perez.
TODD RICHMOND Richmond is an Associated Press reporter covering Wisconsin politics and courts as well as environmental issues and breaking news across the Great Lakes region. He is based in Madison.
The average American suburbanite is a paranoid bloodthirsty monster frantically waiting for an excuse to murder someone. These kinds of people are scared of their own shadow. They riddle their houses with obscene amounts of surveillance tech because they’re perpetually afraid of amorphous criminals coming to lay siege to their generic copy-pasted house. The cultural revolution needed to excise this brain rot from an unsettlingly significant portion of the population will be unprecedented. The suburbs are where healthy human connections wither away and die.
It’s pure mental masturbation and paranoia fuel all in one.
“You. White suburbanite. You are superior and the bourgeoisie’s most beloved cultural middle manager. You are porky’s ally. But be warned, the rest of the filthy proles envy you and want your stuff because they think it’s cool, and hate that you are cooler than them. They’re coming to get you and your stuff that they like. Any attempt to tax me is also a slight on you, the envious have-nots are after us both.”
Fortunately, the supply chains to the exurbs are particularly bottlenecked and ricketty.
In America, owning property gives you the right to kill
In America, owning property gives me the right to kill
I have a feeling I will get a lot of use out of this one
We’ve got guns ready to rock at our place. They’re not there for someone who rings the doorbell and waits at the front door. That shit is for the people who aren’t knocking, and probably aren’t coming to the front door. Only time I’ve thought of where the guns are is the cars that stop in front of our place and the driver has a professional camera (turns out it was real estate stuff and they were taking pics of every house). And the time some road raging asshole was following my partner home and trying to run them off the road. Fortunately, my partner lost them. These people are insane and want to murder.
Whitestown
Nominative determinism strikes again!
I think this more of a case of deterministic nominativism
I mean they likely named it that for that reason, if not it probably attracted racists regardless
but the prosecutor said the decision on whether to file charges won’t be easy.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The case brings Indiana’s castle doctrine laws squarely into play, he said. Those laws allow a person to use reasonable force, including deadly force, to stop what they reasonably believe is an unlawful entry into their dwelling.
If I decided to [bigly beat up a hypothetical robber] you’d rightfully call me a monster. But I’d have still done less damage than that person did to someone standing on their porch.
you’d rightfully call me a monster.
Americans wouldn’t. They seem to believe that their precious property is worth someone else’s life.
But if you [saw how unenthused they were during the prolonged process, especially if I’m unphased or enjoying it] you probably wouldn’t be as happy to be around me during the holidays as you were before. People like the idea of violence 100x more than actual violence. It fucks people up bigly. It’s always the less preferable choice.
I’ve even seen enough soulless grifters pander to the right. Doesn’t even interest me (anymore) (unless all the money goes directly to the vanguard party).
Americans have long normalized that someone being annoying, rude, or inconvenient towards oneself warrants and justifies dishing out disproportional violence. So this isnt surprising. What is surprising that such a thing is mainly done towards regular people and not those higher in the food chain.
It’s hierarchical ideology. You are free to do whatever you want to those below you. They don’t mind if the bouregoisie shits down their throats if it means they in turn can treat brown people like vermin.
Oh, but they sure know how absurdity this rule is when a minority is being antagonized by a white person and retaliates. Suddenly they start marching in the streets for the “right to annoy”.
Yet when these pedantic pests walk around with their rifles annoying everyone around them they fucking love it like pigs in slop.
From the Indianapolis Star “Husband watched as house cleaner was shot and killed trying to enter Whitestown home”
Mauricio Velázquez said he checked the location of the address twice, and drove around the Whitestown subdivision once to confirm he and his wife were at the right home. The couple, self-employed house cleaners, approached the two-story home on the quiet street before dawn.
Velázquez was looking for the correct key on a ring, and Maria Florinda Ríos Pérez jokingly told her husband he was losing his sight, taking the keys from his hand.
“She didn’t even put the key in when I heard the shot happen,” Velázquez told IndyStar through a loved one who translated. “I saw my wife had stepped back twice, and then the keys dropped. Then she dropped, and I went to catch her. I was trying to console her and tell her everything was going to OK, but I was seeing the blood coming out.”
Just after 6:45 a.m., Whitestown Metropolitan Police received a 911 call about a suspected home invasion on Maize Lane in The Heritage, a Whitestown subdivision. There, officers found the 32-year-old mother of four on the porch of a home. She was pronounced dead at the scene.
Police briefing reported by WRTV,
According to Whitestown police, the people attempting to enter the home were members of a cleaning crew who mistakenly arrived at the wrong address. A bullet hole is visible in the front door; police say the door was never opened, and the homeowner shot the woman through the door.
The term “home invasion” should be banned.
My heart dropped reading this. She died as her husband held her, and for absolutely nothing. What an utterly evil, sick place this pit of a country is.
Yeah I didn’t comment anything because the facts speak for themselves, but it is horrible. This woman was murdered, the husband watched his wife die, four kids lost their mom, extended families traumatized. The USA is a damned place.
Incredible
This seems to be another type of “This is Racismtown, named after famous abolitionist John Racism”
Whitestown was laid out in 1851 when the railroad was extended to that point.[4] There is some difference of opinion on how the town derived its name.[5] It was either named for Albert Smith White, a U.S. Senator from Indiana, or Lemuel White, the first white man that came to the community.[6][5][7] The name of the town has at points been noted for being easily perceived as having historical ties to racism in Indiana, despite Albert S. White being known as a leading abolitionist.[8] The first post office in Whitestown was established in 1853.[9]
famous abolitionist John Racism
He built the Racism factory where my grampa worked
And Royalton!
These are the fuckers that will probably say shit like “cities aren’t safe anymore”, but then still think every single person is out to get them in this shitty little suburban home.
They think cities are unsafe because they assume everyone is like them and being around hundreds of thousands of people like them would be extremely dangerous
In similar cases elsewhere, prosecutors have successfully brought charges against people who opened fire outside their homes, including a guilty plea by an 86-year-old man who shot Ralph Yarl after the Black teenager came to his door by mistake. In New York, a man was convicted of second-degree murder for fatally shooting a woman inside a car who came down his driveway by mistake.
It’s genuinely frightening what Americans will shoot you over. The most harmless and meaningless mistake will get you fucking killed.
Every American suburbanite has a fantasy of shooting violent thugs trying to invade their house, they go their entire lives desperately hoping for a situation where they can legally kill someone. Of course the violent thugs never show up, so they settle for the first nonwhite person to come within a 10 mile radius of their front door.
Property rights are completely unhinged in America. Two people were criminally charged with trespassing for doing this:
on the basis that their feet violated private airspace as they “flew” over private land (without touching it) in the process of stepping from one parcel of public land to another. The landowner, a pharmaceutical executive, tried to prevent access to public land by doing this:
two T-posts [were] driven into the private land near the first corners. The posts were chained together, creating an obstacle the ladder overcame. Each post had a “No trespassing” sign and the Elk Mountain Ranch phone number.
Grende complained the hunters had shot a bull elk.
“Mr Grende explained that the area where the three hunters had shot the elk was only accessible to the hunters by means of crossing the private land of the Elk Mountain Ranch,” the affidavit reads.
After they were acquitted the landowner sued them in civil court for 9 million dollars and lost, but only because their property wasn’t physically touched. So it is still legal to block access to public land if you build a tall fence.
if they’re unsure that it’s illegal, the thing to do is to run the charges and let the courts decide. That’s literally their job
But then they might lose their ‘shooting people on porch’ law.
Wow, really living the settler life here. Just shoot any non-white person on your ‘property’. This is just the fantasy of being a settler made real.
Why don’t kids play in the street anymore and call on their neighbors like we used to as kids, says conservatives who support extra judicial executions for minor property access slip ups.
Also you just know this guy has been fantasising about having the excuse to murder someone in cold blood for years, egged on by NRA propaganda.
Anyway to sum up: this is the most American story of all time and I hate everything about it.
“You need to understand all the details so you can understand what happened and what is reasonable,” Eastwood said. “One of the hardest things today in this world is to agree on what’s reasonable. As a prosecutor, those are things we have to grapple with.”
Chat is shooting someone who rings your doorbell a reasonable course of action? Really having trouble determining this. 🤔
This isn’t even a question here in the US! The courts have made very clear many times that this specific situation is not reasonable, and people have to be able to safely ring your doorbell.
Whats the point of having a door bell if you’re gonna shoot anyone who pushes it? Just have an alligator filled moat around your house if you’re that cowardly ffs.
But what if they aren’t white, though? /s
“Those kids ding dong ditched me and made me feel unsafe, your honor. I felt my only course of action was to magdump at them running away”
Wasn’t a black boy killed for ding dong ditching in the US like a month ago?
Yes :doomer:
