• honestly a bit impressed with the dems here, because we’ve definitely gone beyond the line of expectations the fractious GOP had for this shutdown. they can usually count on just enough dems to fold when bluffed with brinksmanship.

    the panic is setting in and trump publicly crapping on the GOP senate for not removing the filibuster exposes that the GOP could have ended the shutdown at any time IF they could all agree.

    all of which jives with the GOPs 9+ month victory lap and triumphalism since the inauguration, so the blame is increasingly resting in republicans for everything that has been occuring. they run everything, so the giant turd on the dinner table is all theirs.

    i think they’re going to panic and actually make an official public try to remove the filibuster (instead of waiting to prove it will pass using back channel discussions first), which may further expose deep dissent within the bloc if it fails, or completely up-end the political calculus of the senate (a historically anti-worker body) permanently if it passes. the filibuster has acted as a check against populist sentiment for so long, its hard to say what might come after, good or bad, in the near and less near term.

    and also, the looming lack of payroll for the military continues to haunt imperial aggression and posturing. like how do you give an eff about “duty” when your family back home can’t pay the bills heading into winter?

    im not really saying all this to be optimistic, but this is all cool zone type shit and its wild af imo to watch unfold.

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      Also impressed with the dems here ngl. The fall will always be the administration’s, first and foremost.

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        Impressed they haven’t caved but they’ve been shit at capitalizing on this. Every single dem politician should be out there saying “we are doing this so the GOP doesn’t gut Medicaid. As soon as they take that out the budget we are ready to sign”. That is a 100% winning message Americans would get behind and they haven’t really done it.

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        I think it’ll be really easy for them to recursively blame the other side for the shut down. ‘They want you to die from hunger just so the illegals will get out of jail’. It’s a willing populace, we are dumb as shit

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          The average American may be dumb but it’s almost always the party in charge that gets the blame when things are bad.

          The issue is they don’t carry that past the next election or connect the dots enough to realize the true cause of most of their issues is capitalism.

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          I think this week’s election results show that people aren’t really buying the bs right now. Mamdani centering class issues in his campaign instead of identity has forced both Democrats and republicans to react in a way that is likely to be electorally devastating to Republicans.

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      Doesn’t their fear of ending the fillibuster kind of imply that they aren’t going for the whole enchilada, so to speak? It’s only important to keep if they think they’ll lose the majority before they’re done with properly ratfucking the opposition and…whatever the fuck else they’ve been trying to do?

      • for sure. i think the most extreme, servile-to-trump, ride or die portion are probably all for removing the filibuster. they aren’t imagining a post-trump landscape, they are living for the moment.

        but there is certainly some portion of republican senators hedging for a political career in a post-trump landscape, and just maybe aren’t all that keen to disconnect the emergency brake given how completely off the rails things have gone in the last 9 months.

        what portion falls on either side is the mystery, because of course they all want to appear loyal to the MAGA for as long as it benefits them.

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          Yeah, it’s a seminal moment for them, they were inevitably going to face this juncture, eliminate the filibuster and consolidate power is what they’ll find themselves pretty amenable to

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    “I really worry about what’s going to happen to the government workforce,” because of “regular” shutdowns, Hassett said, warning they could deter people from joining the federal workforce.

    Isn’t that the whole point?!

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      They literally laid off hundreds of thousands of employees and are now worried about deterring people from working for them. How did he miss the signs flashing in front of him?

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      there’s a bunch of medicaid cuts and shit in the proposed budget so it’s being filibustered, and because we have the ingenious system of “not just re-using last year’s budget” everything just grinds to a halt

      the repubs have been trying super hard to twist this into “the left is holding the government hostage until we give illegal immigrants free hrt” and i think it’s not working, the “everything is the president’s fault” level of political engagement in this country seems to be holding strong

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        The sad part is it wasn’t always this way and the government always paid even when the budget wasn’t set in stone. As with a lot of things not working, this problem started with Nixon deciding he would punish programs he didn’t like by defunding them. Also it is hard not to blame the GOP when they control all branches of government- you’d need to be sleeping to ignore that or just delusional

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      Fun fact: someone in a very red tiny town I lived in actually had a limb amputated because they were bright enough to be playing with a shotgun while drunk. Over legal age too. Idk their political preferences or how they feel/felt about public assistance programs because it was a news blip and they remained nameless but definitely God, guns, and drunkenness go together like PBJ and milk in the South.