If you want to capture middle America’s vote then run progressive candidates with an economic populist platform. That’s not out of touch, it’s a proven strategy. The DNC leadership is more interested in keeping the support of their wealthy donors than in recapturing middle America’s vote. They would rather lose elections than lose their donors.
My own father is quiet about his political views for all that I’ve known him. He is a boomer. He detests Trump, but it did come up in conversation he actually LIKED Kamala’s efforts to shake hands with Liz Cheney and the like. So I at least know the demographic the Democrats attempt to cater to is not non-existent.
There’s growing evidence Democrats do better when they moderate (get closer to average American’s viewpoints) than go extreme progressive (go away from average American’s viewpoints). Again people are turned off by extreme positions. So many people voted for Trump, or didn’t vote for Dems, because they believe we sponsor sex change surgery for minors, or paying for immigrants’ sex changes (I know it’s called gender reassignment surgery, but this is how middle America talks about it).
How the hell is going more progressive, spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports (a wildly unpopular topic), vs going in with a hard-hammered message of economic stability, which is what people keep voting for?
Whenever I hear leftists talking about going more progressive, I wonder if you’ve spent any time wandering around the flyover states, talking to the average farmer or factory worker, because they decide the president, not us. We are out of touch with them, and nothing we are doing is drawing them in - only turning them off.
Here’s a list of progressive policies that the Democratic leadership have made taboo and their approval ratings:
Medicare for All shows majority support in nearly every poll.
55% support raising the federal minimum wage.
An overwhelming majority support ending citizens united.
59% support the green new deal.
79% support raising taxes on the rich.
These numbers vary by single digit percentage points from poll to poll, not enough to change the conclusion - that progressive policy is overwhelmingly popular - which is why it’s so frustrating that you’re defending Democrats shying away from those policies to appeal to a mythical “moderate.” Zohran Mamdani’s campaign shows you don’t have to back down on trans rights to run an economics focused campaign, and it’s the progressive economic policies that are the most popular. When people hear Democrats hem and haw about “economic stability” they hear “we’re not going to change anything about the system that’s fucking you with a rusty tire iron.”
Did they vote for Trump because he was the centrist position? Did pandering towards center work for Kamala? Is “spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports” really what Schmoo meant when he was talking about progressive/left economic populism? People like Zohran seem very popular right now. They aren’t centrist.
most of them are DINOs anyways, they are republicans but would not be electable as an R in modern, unless they switch thier parties after being elected as a D.
If you want to capture middle America’s vote then run progressive candidates with an economic populist platform. That’s not out of touch, it’s a proven strategy. The DNC leadership is more interested in keeping the support of their wealthy donors than in recapturing middle America’s vote. They would rather lose elections than lose their donors.
My own father is quiet about his political views for all that I’ve known him. He is a boomer. He detests Trump, but it did come up in conversation he actually LIKED Kamala’s efforts to shake hands with Liz Cheney and the like. So I at least know the demographic the Democrats attempt to cater to is not non-existent.
There’s growing evidence Democrats do better when they moderate (get closer to average American’s viewpoints) than go extreme progressive (go away from average American’s viewpoints). Again people are turned off by extreme positions. So many people voted for Trump, or didn’t vote for Dems, because they believe we sponsor sex change surgery for minors, or paying for immigrants’ sex changes (I know it’s called gender reassignment surgery, but this is how middle America talks about it).
How the hell is going more progressive, spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports (a wildly unpopular topic), vs going in with a hard-hammered message of economic stability, which is what people keep voting for?
Whenever I hear leftists talking about going more progressive, I wonder if you’ve spent any time wandering around the flyover states, talking to the average farmer or factory worker, because they decide the president, not us. We are out of touch with them, and nothing we are doing is drawing them in - only turning them off.
Here’s a list of progressive policies that the Democratic leadership have made taboo and their approval ratings:
Medicare for All shows majority support in nearly every poll.
55% support raising the federal minimum wage.
An overwhelming majority support ending citizens united.
59% support the green new deal.
79% support raising taxes on the rich.
These numbers vary by single digit percentage points from poll to poll, not enough to change the conclusion - that progressive policy is overwhelmingly popular - which is why it’s so frustrating that you’re defending Democrats shying away from those policies to appeal to a mythical “moderate.” Zohran Mamdani’s campaign shows you don’t have to back down on trans rights to run an economics focused campaign, and it’s the progressive economic policies that are the most popular. When people hear Democrats hem and haw about “economic stability” they hear “we’re not going to change anything about the system that’s fucking you with a rusty tire iron.”
Did they vote for Trump because he was the centrist position? Did pandering towards center work for Kamala? Is “spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports” really what Schmoo meant when he was talking about progressive/left economic populism? People like Zohran seem very popular right now. They aren’t centrist.
most of them are DINOs anyways, they are republicans but would not be electable as an R in modern, unless they switch thier parties after being elected as a D.