• JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
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      Yeah but at this point American Brands are awful, Chinese Brands are awful, Indian Brands are awful, and European Brands are awful, all in different ways, but also in exactly the same way that they harvest every bit of your driving and location data and tell it to the lowest bidder.

      There is nog much left. I don’t think there will be an open source car anytime soon lol

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        Sure, but “buyeuropean” is not “dontbuyamerican”. We have car manufacturers here too, so BYD getting bigger sales number on this continent is not a good signal for Europe :(

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          Europe should have then heavily invested in EVs, clean energy and forced manufacturers to switch. Now China has the technological edge and consumers are to pay the price if we stay with our shitty expensive oversized EVs. The fact that European capitals aren’t crammed full of micro-EVs like the Wuling Hongguang is actually sinful.

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          Maybe european car companies should just do better. I wonder if they ever thought of that?

          Just because they are european, doesn’t mean they are a company we should buy from and support. Nestle is European and is a baby murdering, child trafficking, chocolate slave trade company that kills and sickens thousands of people a year by illegally stealing water from them. Unilever is also pretty shit, spotify is just about the worst streaming service, not to mention the pharmaceutical companies…

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          Well…fucking BMW refuses to make an affordable EV, VW refuses to make one that actually works, Mercedes only wants to sell $150k cars…fuck them.

          Renault is doing fine.

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            also VW with it’s bad everything in the ID line besides looks i guess and still charges 41-58k€. It is insane for something with terrible mileage (and an estimation that just plain lies), laggy as shit entertainment system that has taken up to 15 minutes to connect to android auto (2020 passat takes <3 seconds on the same phone) and is very buggy and sometimes needs a full car restart to show the maps app, horrible quality backup camera (my 2015 Nissan Altima had a 10x better quality camera) that has to be cleaned literally daily because they placed it so badly, terrible volume control, and no seat adjustment, and still tracks your every move.

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          Nope, Toyota is going HARD on subscriptions for literally every single feature. More and more every year. Remote start (Mazda also does this), charging you an upfront cost for hands-free driving, then telling you after that you have to pay 25€ to use it, soon seat heating and brakes will probably be locked behind a subscription after paying 50k for the car.

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        Your phone does this when you take a shit, but now people are concerned about their car data?

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          You can always leave your phone at home or at least turn it off/put it in a Faraday pouch if you really wanted some privacy. Can’t do that with a modern car.