If he made a Christian AI, it would be shut down within a week for being too woke.
I mean yeah, but you assume it will be trained on the whole bible and not just the parts that enforce his will.
There will be smiting of immigrants. Yea.
Where there was once purported atheism, there is now “a very loud, very visible and very specifically Christian-inflected technological culture” in Silicon Valley, said Damien Williams, a scholar at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte who studies how technologies are shaped by religious beliefs.
Danger. Danger.
a scholar at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte
Hahahahaha…wait, was that not a joke?
No there isn’t. 🤣
Peter Thiel has entered the chat
Stop asking “what would Jesus do?”, use Jesus API.
JAAS.
Save your soul for only 20.99 a month… wait I guess this isn’t really that new.
AI Jesus will tell you to switch to a eastern religion.
Curing cancer? Nooo
Protecting children from gun shots? Nooo
Making sure children are educated and fed? Nooo
Let’s build a fucking ball room and create a Jesus chat bot – YES
I cannot believe that this is the future we were waiting for.
Remember when God said he didn’t want idols made, then he punished the Jews to wander the desert for 40 years.
This gives those vibes.
It feels plain wrong.
Remember when God said he didn’t want idols made
You are about 1700 years late to this argument. Christians reconciled with iconography some time in the Byzantium Era.
And after Protestantism? FFS, can you imagine what Joseph Smith would say about an AI Prophet, after spending half his career reading discs out of a hat with special sunglasses?
Sorry, totally unrelated but fun memory: Iconoclast was the first word whose unexpected etymology I (mostly) worked out on my own. I was watching a vh1 documentary on iconoclasts, and I’d just had a biology class where I’d learned about acetoclastic bacteria. I had a eureka moment wherein I leapt to the conclusion that “breaking the mold” was an older saying than I expected. I wasn’t totally right on that, but I was still psyched to have broken it down correctly.
I don’t have any problems with building beautiful things like cathedrals or making art in the name of God
But building oracles and such is gross. The who AI pope question was insane.
But I will have to read that article deeper, that’s an interesting wikipedia link
I don’t have any problems with building beautiful things like cathedrals or making art in the name of God
What about Catholics praying to little figurines and statues of saints? Because that’s been going on for a long time
You know how people used to put pictures of their loved ones in a locket, or in their wallets, or as a background pic on their phones? That’s what they were supposed to be. (As told by a catholic friend)
I can accept that. I have one of my kids in the car cause I used to drive like a maniac. It’s a constant reminder of the kind of person I should be while driving.
But of course, people will be people, ignoring what they’re told and doing whatever the hell they like… “This statue cried blood, let’s pray to it!” (and ignore the leaking toilet upstairs)
You’re still not supposed to pray to anyone else, according to the Bible, and Catholics pray to the saints (and Mary I believe). Just outright heretical.
But building oracles and such is gross.
You’re talking about a religion whose entire foundation is built on saints and prophets. The whole Jesus story is a big deal because it is fulfillment of prophecy.
The who AI pope question was insane.
It’s certainly heretical to the Catholic Church. But fits comfortably in a bunch of New Age and Technocratic Futurist Protestant understands of their faith.
discsrocksHe had a magic rock he put in at hat lol
Ah. Hence the age old adage: “Don’t be fooled by the rocks that I got”.
You REALLY expect conservatives to actually follow the non oppressive sections of the scriptures?
Rotfl
I think they could use a good 40 years wandering the desert right now.
I prefer the flood. Without an ark.
She-bears.
Scorpions need to eat. I don’t see a downside.
Also I don’t think Christ would return if we were all being cool to each other, so they’re admitting they’re just trying to push humanity more off track.
How does that help you in God’s judgement? I’m pretty sure disrespecting all of his creation and doing the opposite of everything Jesus stood for won’t go well.
I’m agnostic, but selfishly I would not purposefully try to hasten driving myself to hell/damnation if I believed in it.
Thankfully the values my mom taught me are the same ones Jesus taught: love your neighbour as yourself and do unto others as you would have done to you.
Thankfully the values my mom taught me are the same ones Jesus taught: love your neighbour as yourself and do unto others as you would have done to you.
This is what baffles me when my dad argues with me for being left of center.
You sent me where they taught this, did you not want me to learn it?
(Also not religious, but kept some of the philosophy)
There’s a lot of good Christian teachings that just make the world better regardless of your fear of eternal punishment or any god.
While outside my education I’m sure most religions too, but too many people get caught up in casting out others, or hating the non believers, or doling out punishments they have no right to.
Yeah it’s enough to drive one insane.
How does that help you in God’s judgement?
“The ends justify the means”, or something.
Wandering the desert?
Nay, vibe travelling.
That thing better be running on TempleOS and be coded with HolyC, or I’m calling BS and telling people they’ve just found a new way to make LLMs even more annoying than they already were.
Why are the American religious right so fixated on the rapture? It’s a death cult sprawling across the nation like a cancer.
Because it gives them the ability to let themselves off the hook for participating in the destruction of the planet.
Destruction of the planet, hardly. The earth has and will shrug of worse than humanity. Thinking otherwise is giving humanity too much credit.
Destruction of humanity is more likely. We are actively making the earth worse for us, and many other species. But there are many more which will survive and thrive after we destroy ourselves.
I think when people say “destruction of the planet” they are really meaning “our ecosphere and the multitude of species that are currently going extinct”.
Many recognize that we are in a 6th mass extinction period and understand that as the ecosystem goes, so do we. Is the spheroid body of the planet going to crumble or plate tectonics stop working because we’re gone? With all deference to George Carlin, no we know better (we’ll, there is the question about racking-induced earthquakes, but that’s a bit in the weeds).
You know what I meant
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There’s also the childish desire for an “I told you so” as they watch anyone they don’t like being sent to hell.
These people think they’re in the end times because the world is in a garbage fire state, that they probably helped cause, and now they want out instead of doing literally anything else, including just not making it worse.
Because they think that they’re going to be the ones who are rewarded, not the ones who will be punished.
Because they think they will go to heaven. If I read the Bible I’d say they wouldn’t.
ever notice that, with LLMs, the main goal of the people who own them is to turn them from machines that spit out information they gathered in realistic-ishly human ways to machines that spit out what their owners want people to believe?
Super intelligent suckers seems like a wonderful goal.
Mark my words — but we’re going to see a time (in our lifetimes) where a group of people is going to worship an AI as “divine”. And you won’t be able to convince them otherwise. An AI-centric cult is all but inevitable at this point. And it will be self-reinforcing.
I don’t think it will take long either. When you look at all the grifts the American evangelists pull, and people fall for it every time, then you’ve got all these people thinking that Trump is anointed by God or some such crap. No problem at all in selling these idiots the idea that they have an instant always-on hotline to God via God’s Chosen LLM. Then you’ve got them locked in to whatever psychosis you choose to construct for them.
I’m willing to bet you could convince a subset of those people that such an LLM is in fact the second coming of Christ. So not just some tool “approved” by God, but that the LLM is the God itself.
Then (to the “true believers” minds) whatever it says will be unquestionable. And then whomever is pulling the strings behind the scenes can commit whatever atrocities they desire.
We did this, the answer was 42.
Look up temple OS!
I’m familiar with TempleOS — but it really doesn’t have any applicability here. It’s just something written by a guy with some mental illness who thought God was telling him what he wanted in an Operating System. But even for the faithful it’s just a tool — like how a temple itself may be an important holy place, but isn’t itself worshipped by the people who use it. Nobody considers a church to actually be their God.
That’s vastly different from an LLM that purports to be itself divine. We can setup an LLM that actually claims to be the second coming of Jesus, and there will be people will do whatever it tells them to because of belief. If you suck in enough people for enough years slowly enough to build up a cult following, and abuse them just enough to keep them in line, you’ll be able to tell them to do all sorts of truly atrocious things — and some subset will in fact go through with them.
And yes, people can do that already (see Jim Jones, David Koresh, or any other cult leader that convinced all their followers to kill themselves and their families) — but an LLM could have a vastly larger reach around the globe. We may not need for the LLM itself to become Skynet — one or two bad actors behind the scenes of a “divine” LLM might be enough to bring down humanity all by itself.
Breaking: Lightning flashes, thunderous boom. Jesus Christ appears upon a obelisk in the center of the reflecting pool in DC.
And I say unto you: FUCKING HELL, CAN YOU ALL JUST STOP RUINING THE WORLD AND EACHOTHER, JUST FUCKING STOP IT WITH THE MONEY AND FUCKING OVER THE POOR. EVERYONE DESERVES FOOD AND COMFORT AND STOP TRYING TO SPEND ALL THE NATURAL RESOURCES ON GET RICH QUICK AI BULLSHIT, I CAN’T BELIEVE I HAD TO COME DOWN HERE TO STOP YOU ASSHOLES.
Did you guys see that AI generated drone show in the sky? Those libtards must be getting super afraid to stoop that low. Hey! Jon! Did you make sure the food bank in that black neighborhood had their deliveries diverted to the dump?
Actually this is a pretty impressive grift. I don’t think anyone has tried this before.
lol
Exactly, one man’s mission to soak up as much money from religious nutters as possible.
Just as the church has always done.
Holy shit, when does Big Tech ever stop being such a clown show???
Also:
The ego on these people, calling themselves Christians but thinking God needs their help for his plans.
They think God works through them, and it is their divine duty to do this.
It’s how they justify a lot of the shit they do.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
-Susan B. Anthony
Man, when Berry Goldwater thinks that’s a problem…
It is their divine duty to do the things they already wanted to do and say it was for Jesus.
This justification is always funny.
“Oh, your all powerful god needs the help of Brian the middle manager to get its work done for them?”
Because “God” works through us, imperfect tools, etc. The real question is why does anything we do matter if we are all just part of gods plan?
The answer to that is to do what God said to do to hasten his coming: spread the gospel. Not ban abortions, arrest gay people, criminalize trans people. Spread the gospel. Anything else is them using religion as an excuse to promote their opinions. I realize a lot of people here recognize that, but I still think it needs to be said.
Don’t you know, God is a lazy slob who needs to be provoked into action. And of course he has no idea what’s happening on Earth unless someone tells him in a very specific way.
Well he did only work 6 days in his life
And don’t forget money! God needs millions of dollars to turn into his will! God’s will is surprisingly dependent on cash donations.
I think I understand skynet now. It must have been a Christian AI and decided it would bring upon the rapture, and no one was worthy.
We have TempleOS already, but thanks anyway.
