We need to swiftly transform No Kings from a Democratic Party spectacle to a grass roots resistance movement.

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    21 hours ago

    The Democrats are a rich people party too. They’re not your friends, they’re just the lesser evil.

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      Right now, they’re not nazis. That’s all I care about. We need anyone against nazis on our side. No one should be dividing anyone up, unless you’re dividing the nazi regime.

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        The article here doesn’t look to me to be advocating dividing people up, but rather making sure the movement is not controlled by the Democrats. Democrats should be part of it, not in charge of it.

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          I understand where you are coming from and agree with the sentiment, but at the end of the day either they need to form a party and quickly, as if it isn’t all together by August 2026 it has no hope of doing anything if there actually are fair & free elections some how, or they all have to vote out Democrats they don’t like and vote in new ones who fit their views better using the already established democrat committees.

          States like Florida require you to have at least 1% vote in the last election and a committee with 50 board members set up and in place with the rules of how you would perform your primary and what not. Which is why they would have to establish it all and have it in place and ultimately surrender the Governor seat of Florida to the Republicans in the 2026 election to ensure they could exist on the ballot in 2028 for a presidential candidate. So it’s either organize quickly, or just rework what’s there.

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            No Kings is apolitical except for the idea that autocracy/royalty is un-American. As soon as you put it into a political box it will alienate a bunch of people.

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      The Dems is 2025 are the same Dems that voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

      Meanwhile, the GOP is ready to hang Ronald Reagan as a woke Liberal.

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        The Dems in 2025 are the people who lost the presidency to the most incompetent man in the world. Twice. I do not think it’s smart to trust them to be the stewards of what seems to be shaping up to be the primary resistance movement.

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          As much as I hate the liberal purity test culture, you’ve hit the nail on the head. As much as the movement should use any and all available allies, people really shouldn’t forget this point when the smoke settles

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            I only see right wingers demanding support for policy that is both immoral and electorally dumb complaining about “liberal purity tests”.

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                ???

                It would help if you got more specific; name the policy in question.

                Most recent complaint about purity tests and circular firing squads I’ve seen was over the purity test of not being a warcrininal with a totemkomf tattood on your chest. Before that it was trying to silence anyone trying to stop the dems from choosing wildly unpopular policy, that ultimately got Trump elected.

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          Liberal acceptance of a lesser evil allows a slightly larger evil with each increment has led to someone to the likes of trump occupying the White House. Your less evil has resulted in incremental fascism

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            That is so fucking stupid.

            A lesser evil can also lead to less evil incrementally as progress is made. What you’re arguing for is to say that people should take a lesser evil and then take EVEN LESS evil than that. Your insistence on perfection will kill people.

            I get that you want to be sanctimonious, but saving one person now is better than saving two people tomorrow, because it has the potential to also save two people tomorrow.

            Watch as I use your same logic against you: Your no evil strategy resulted in Trump, and those Palestinians are grateful that you exterminated them faster. Nice going!

            See how stupid that is?

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              There has been no progress made. The only difference is Democrats keep shifting to the right with Republicans. In case you don’t know turning into first-term Trump Republicans is not progress

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                Cool, you didn’t listen. You are the average ML. You should feel proud to add this to your list of accomplishments.

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                  I don’t believe you are capable of arguing in good faith, right off the bat you tried to accuse me of personal attacks, but that’s all that you’ve done.