A KFile investigation has uncovered mounting evidence that Platner — a Marine veteran— was aware of and defended the use of Nazi symbolism that had come to be embraced by some members of the military.

Feel this is a good accompanying piece for all the folk insisting on caping for a Blackwater merc wth a nazi tattoo because he said something they liked.

  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    219·
    16 hours ago

    You should vote based on behaviors. Not a skull tattoo that is only subjectively associated with Nazis.

    He also clarified the situation.

    What more do you want from him?

    You want to vote for the person the billionaires and trump and Israel are pushing for instead. ?

    Because of a skull tattoo that does not look like any Nazi icons or symbols. But that some say could be related?

    Vote based on policy and behavior of candidate. Not on what others say about what type of person they think he is when none even know him.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipOP
      258·
      16 hours ago

      Okay, what are his behaviors?

      I know, let’s judge him on getting a god damned SS skull tattooed on his chest 20 years ago? No? Okay.

      Let’s judge him based on having confirmed he knows the heritage of said tattoo 5 years ago and STILL not getting it removed? No?

      Can we judge him based on actively lying to the people he is trying to convince to vote for him about said tattoo? With the dumbest fucking excuse ever of him being a terminally online military history buff who was completely unaware of the fucking totenkopf? No? Damn, you got some real high standards.

      I know! We can judge him based on his long history of homophobic slurs and really shitty views on sexual assault? No? Well, this IS America, women and gays don’t matter. Moving on.

      OOH OOOH! Can we judge him on having fucking joined Blackwater as a PMC? Still no? Damn.

      Okay, fine. Let’s judge him based on his long history of community service and political activism. ERROR: FILE NOT FOUND.

      Okay, fine. We’ll judge him based on a few things he said over the past couple months and a long history of internet shitposting. Platner For President!!!

      What more do you want from him?

      Honestly? To acknowledge he lied to his potential constituents and the American people. And to probably step down on this cycle because his very existence undermines every single “trump et al are fucking nazis” campaign.

      I would also genuinely love for him to talk about how he was peer pressured into it in the military and that he was too ashamed to stand up. And then I want him to spend the next seven-ish years actually showing he has changed. Get those community service hours. Engage in political activism. Show us he is worth something.

      Wait, why did I say seven years? Isn’t a senate term six?

      You want to vote for the person the billionaires and trump and Israel are pushing for instead. ?

      No. I want people to fucking realize it is over a year until the actual election and there is still PLENTY of time to continue this primary. And… maybe they can consider that Smith-Rodriguez was ALSO a veteran who ALSO had a demsoc platform

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        26·
        12 hours ago

        You’re just lying though. None of his posts confirmed he knew what it was.

        • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipOP
          51·
          12 hours ago

          In the thread in question

          https://web.archive.org/web/20190226141422/https:/www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/auy0bi/battleweary_ss/

          • Person A: The totenkopf on the dude first on the left is a good clue.
          • Person B: has literal human skulls on uniform (…)
          • Person C: Many soldiers still use the skull as an emblem (see the Punisher skull for the SEALs) or regiment emblems all around the world. It’s a way of making others fear them and all. (…)
          • Person D: (…) Punisher is a kind of unofficial emblem and it’s more something some individuals do. I’ve seen it more on civvy and moto stuff than on actual servicemen.

          And, reproduced without edits, Lil Skorzeny himself

          When I was in Ramadi in ‘06 as a Marine grunt, the SEAL platoon we worked closely with for the deployment all had the Punisher skull spray painted on their armor carriers.

          There’s no question it’s far more prevalent on all the dumbass Grunt Style and Nine Line shirts these days, but the teams definitely adopted it for a while.

          Confirming he understands that the punisher skull usage is in the same vein as the totenkopf. And considering his tattoo is much closer to the latter and he outright mocks the former?

          So… try again. Maybe argue that him knowing how stupid it looks is an indicator that he always hated the nazi tattoo he had for 20 years and is thus a hero. Or just scream “fake news” until you go blue in the face.

          • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            24·
            9 hours ago

            Being downstream in a thread that mentioned totenkopf and then veered into Punisher skulls is not the same thing as “of hey, I’ve got one of those on my body”. His reply is about Punisher skulls and in response to someone who was talking about Punisher skulls, who was themselves responding to a comment about Punisher skulls. There wasn’t a picture posted and the comment immediately under it called it a “skull”. He jumped in two replies deep into a conversation on the use of Punisher skulls in the military and if he wondered what the German word was 4 comments up, he already saw that it was “a skull”, which him and others already saw as a pretty widely used icon.

            Surely you’ve never seen someone join into a conversation in a child comment who obviously didn’t think deeply about a comment 4 levels upstream. Not on our Internet.

            You’re lying about facts.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1411·
      16 hours ago

      Seriously, this smear campaign is so transparent. And the users on this site buying it up wholesale is sad to see.