I am currently thinking about my own setup for photo and video backup, and was curious what other people are using as their own backup systems.
Do you use online photo hosting like Google photos? Do you use self hosted backup system / network accessed storage? How many backups do you have in total? Do you split by medium and location?
Apologies if there is such a question on lemmy already.
Currently Ente - looking for a replacement. Ente’s apps are non-native and it shows - really sluggish and poor. I wish they would prioritise that, but they don’t. But this is not really a backup - it’s a sync - and like a shadow of iOS Photos app on iOS because, well, those APIs are not natively accessible to other apps on iOS. Ente is more like Google Photos’ FOSS and E2EE alt.
For actually backing up my personal data (including videos and photos) I use:
- borgbase (with borg’s GUI Vorta; FOSS and E2EE)
- backblaze b2 (using restic’s GUI backrest; FOSS and E2EE) – these both have exactly the same personal data being backed up.
- then there’s tarsnap (this is a much smaller - must save at all costs - data set). Tarsnap is very unwieldy (literally stuck in time - not in a good way) but I have been backing up since long and I do not have another reliable solution. Its client code is readable publicly - don’t know it’s FOSS or not; apparently not. But E2EE.
(1 and 2 are really great apps!)
I also use a sync tool with a lifetime plan (but it sucks and I am finding a replacement, so won’t even name it; it says E2EE but they are so irresponsible that I removed anything sensitively personal from sync set). PS. This was my first and last lifetime anything of my life.
I use SMBSync to push photos and videos from our phones to a Syncthing that runs on a LXC container.
That Syncthing folder is shared to multiple computers, and does a nightly rsync to the main NAS (raid1).
The main NAS does a weekly rsync to a secondary always off raid1 NAS
I have a cold backup on a HDD at a friend’s place far away enough. There’s a warm-ish backup on a HDD attached to a raspberry pi I sync once in a long while
I’m currently in the middle of switching.
I’m using immich, running on a raspberry Pi, saving to my NAS mounted as a network drive. I access it remotely via a CloudFlare tunnel.
However CloudFlare doesn’t like serving video for free, so I’ma move to a VPS running pangolin and a few other security tools.
I also plan to find a better off-site disaster recovery backup solution for my NAS. Maybe AWS glacier, or maybe another NAS at my parents connected via tailscale, where I can send periodic full backups.
Cold backups, anything else is vulnerable to hacking and electric damage.
But it’s important to scrub the backups from time to time, so it’s not when your hard drive dies that you discover that your backups were corrupted.
If files are really important then I would get 2 backups, one hot synchronised daily or hourly and a cold synced once a month. But for hobby photos I find that one backup is enough.
Cloud hosting is out of the question for privacy and cost reasons. I have almost 1TB of photos, I can buy a lot of hard drives for the price of just one year of cloud.
I have a two terabyte external hard drive. Because I don’t trust clouds anymore.
I have a trueNAS server with at least 2 copies of them on different zfs pools (nextcloud for main copy), then I have a 2TB external storage on my MacBook.
This is all backed up to backblaze and one drive
All photos from my and the wife’s phones are backed up to nextcloud and google photos on our own domain
It needs a bit of a tidy up
If I really wanna save a photo, I print it out. For video, I don’t really have anything anymore. I would be doing a physical backup, too, but I don’t currently have a VIVO card (to record to VHS/Betamax) or a DVD burner to be able to do that. I simply keep them on a physical drive that is in my possession.
Google Photos stores everything I don’t care much about but I don’t like to rely on something I have no real control over. If they go down, I lose my shit. The only way I could lose my shit RN is if I somehow lose the drive I never move anywhere, or it breaks.
I’m using Immich, and I’m hopefully setting up Duplicati with a friend so we both back up (encrypted) each others files. Self hosted, and the 3-2-1 backup rule!
Synology NAS. Had it for a few years. Comes with Synology Photos, which is like Google Photos in terms of functionality (but local, of course).
I’ve heard good things about immich too, but haven’t tried it yet.
I’ve tried Ente and that’s also a good solution for how turnkey it is.
Photos + Videos: Immich
The backup repository: Veeam
How many: Don’t really know. 14 versions made daily?I backup to Nextcloud and then use the Memories app to access them. I’ll admit that it’s not as flashy as Google Photos but actually it almost is.
I backup with nextcloud too but never messed with memories. My next big project is organizing my photos and moving to immich.
Yeah immich has been on the roadmap for me for a while too… but i think NC+Memories is just good enough to make me lazy enough to neglect/delay the Immich move 🤣
Some interesting and technically impressive replies here. I’m painfully aware that in this context my reply will seem appallingly gauche, but… I use Amazon Photos.
I’ve got an old NAS that has all our precious photos and vids on, but Amazon Photos comes free with prime and, as the multiple firesticks we’ve got for IPTV have a screen saver that can slideshow your pictures, it means that we actually view the many thousands we’ve got on our main TVs.
What can I say - it just works, it’s convenient and accessible. I’m sure if I was a professional photographer I’d have a way different approach, but that ain’t me.
I had no idea it was free with prime. Full res backup?
Yep. According to the T&C’s you get " full resolution photo storage" and it’s unlimited. They limit video to 5 gig.
I signed up for a plan over at ente.io a couple of years ago, has been smooth ever since. Great app, great sync, I don’t self-host but I believe they offer that option.
Nextcloud for uploading all data, then Immich reading from a shared dir
(I’ve added immich to the nextcloud group, and make it read from my space in my nextcloud data dir)
Why upload with Nextcloud instead of with Immich directly?
Because Immich only handles media, and I have more than that (Signal backups, Termux, configs, Downloads, etc.). So I can either carefully splice that, hope both uploads work and nothing is lost, or upload everything via one method and point immich to the most important directories.
In an ideal world, I could just treat my phone like any other host, including permanent remote access via sftp, full borg backups and a better/cleaner fs structure.
These look very neat, thank you.
Out of curiosity, do you selfhost at home, or via private VPS?
If at home, wouldn’t eg a fire wipe out the photos? Or do you have several backups?
Almost everything is currently at home (at my fathers home, fiber internet, a basement with enough space etc.). I use borg to backup to a Hetzner Storagebox.
I only use a VPS for IPv6 addresses with rDNS and a static IPv4 with rDNS, as backup. And the storagebox, ofc.
Though, hopefully, I’ll soon get another nice deal to have a second server at my fathers place, so I can take the current fallback server back to my home, so I can actually host all my stuff there in case I need to.
I use immich for all mobile/old jpg and video stuff.
For raw photos I use syncthing to keep a synced copy from my nas to my external drive so I can edit on the go in full speed vs network connection.
My previous laptop had two m.2 slots but current tablet only has one so I had to move the 4tb external
I had to move the 4tb external
Caution if that’s an off-the-shelf external rig: the disks in there are apparently of lower quality. Sorry to nag you if you did the right thing and got a reliable USB<->SSD adapter and a high-quality disk.
I got a usb4 adapter to put my disk in since I already had it. I think the adapter is like a qwizlib or something like that.
I got it because its like a big heatsink and no fan, good for when I go camping I didn’t want the fan sucking in dust. But I’m pretty surprised by how hot it gets, hot to the touch so not sure how good it is for the drive










