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    16 hours ago

    Worth noting that the veterinarian here is massively cutting clips down and out of context, the clips alone that he references as evidence do not actually evidence the totality of the claims he makes before he shows the clips.

    That is what you call priming.

    Its not actually proof, but, if you are emotionally charged, or otherwise predisposed to dislike someone or something, you’re likely to overlook that.

    Fox News in particular is famous/infamous for using this kind of technique, for decades.


    Lets break this down, media literacy style:

    First, we get vet being… righteously dismissive in expression… before anything has happened in the accompanying clip.

    He starts shaking his head, then dog yelps.

    He even starts shaking his head… before Hasan supposed goes for the control.

    Which he then just labels as that being what is happening.

    (this is textbook priming)

    Vet says Hasan said dog wasn’t wearing… a collar, the collar?

    Not evidenced at all, but just claimed.

    (What Hasan has actually said this whole time is that she was wearing a collar, one that only vibrates)

    (It is extremely common to have multiple kinds of collars for a dog, an indoor one, an outdoor one for a regular leash, maybe another one for a different kind of leash)

    (This is why Hasans words are ‘that collar’, not ‘a collar’)

    Onto the next clip, of Hasan showing the collar, which we have been told he lied about.

    Hasan: It has the capacity to vibrate [very obvious jump cut] and that’s it.

    Oh ok, sure, yeah. I wonder the full clip has Hasan saying. We don’t know.

    Ok, now, lets look at this… car key? Key fob? Vibrator remote control? Wireless device puck?

    Who knows, its a vaguely black blob with some features.

    Ok, now, jump cut to… totally unknown time, could be hours or days away from the incident, we don’t know, but Hasan moved his hand and arm near the same area… so clearly he is hiding something, I guess?

    Ok… now here’s… some guy with vibrate/shock collar. Do we bother to establish in any way that this actually is the same model of collar Hasan has?

    Nope!

    We just say that, ok, moving on:

    Hasan has apparently told people why he uses a shock collar!

    So, here’s a clip of him describing… some kind of frustration with dog… Hasan never says anything about a shock collar though.

    And then Vet goes on to decide that what Hasan said there was… not what he actually said.

    Now Vet goes on a patronizing ramble, concluding that this is animal abuse because dog is being prevented from moving around.

    You may note that he doesn’t even say that use of a shock collar at all, is itself animal abuse.

    No, for him its uh… the way in which it was supposedly used.

    So presumably he would be ok with using a shock collar in the right way?

    Also he now refers back to the original incident where dog was apparently stopped from leaving the bed by the ‘shock collar’.

    Go rewind the clip and you can see that dog gets up, begins to move, Hasan turns around, frustratedly tells dog ‘Kaya, Please, Stop!’ and… dog begins to move back onto the bed… before ‘shock’ apparently happens.

    So Vet’s whole theory here is that the ‘shock’ is what prevented Kaya from leaving the bed.

    But she was returning to it, before the ‘shock’ happened.

    She was just listening to Hasan.


    … Yep, I’m going with Kaya … yeah, she probably did need to move around a bit, Hasan got a bit overly terse with her, she goes back toward the bed, and accidentally snags her dewclaw of her front right leg/footpad on the side of the platform, and yelps and recoils from that a bit.

    The yelp is perfectly timed with when her dewclaw was passing the edge of the bed/platform.

    Hardly animal abuse.

    Literally not even close.

    If that is animal abuse, then…

    …telling a toddler ‘No, put that down!’ when you… thought you saw them grab some scissors, but actually your eyes were blurry, and it was just some glossy folded paper… then that is child abuse.

    Its not, by the way.

    You should probably explain your mistake to the toddler afterward, comfort them a bit… but as a one-off thing, no that is not child abuse.

    Child or animal abuse would be literally locking them in a cage, when you are away at work, something significantly more extreme, and also often repeated.

    Even if I ended up being completely wrong, this video from the Vet is extremely manipulative and dishonest in the way it presents its case.


    And for what its worth, no, I am not some Hasan stan, you can go back and look at my comments around the last time I was paying attention to him, getting pissed at just how brazen and needlessly inflammatory it was to interview an actual member of the Houthis / Ansar Allah.