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    These trinkets will go to a very rich collector, not through your typical “fence the goods” path. I’d check Mar-a-Lago as a first step.

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    I think it’s a tragedy as these represent a piece of history that can’t be reclaimed. And, because the items are so hot, the thieves will likely just destroy them and sell the pieces.

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    Where was security during all this? Was there NO camera coverage on that part of the building? This is The Louvre, not a pawn shop. All the reporters keeps saying this is “the crime of the century” to which I say, “well yeah, but that’s only because your awful security made that possible!”

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      We are in the “telling the public what evidence they have will alert the perps” phase, only wild media speculation until the investigators are done doing their thing.

      I look forward to Internet Historian doing one of his stock image gilliamation videos about this.

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    The article can’t be bothered to include any pictures of the stolen jewels

    edit: I think these are the stolen jewels

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      I saw the top piece in another article, and I heard about all the sapphires. This is my first time seeing them, and they are unbelievable. It looks like they’re the right works.

      There was also a crown that got dropped in the street and took some damage. At least it was recovered.

      I once read a book by a retired jewel thief whose statutes of limitations has all run out, and he said that that the first thing he did was break down the jewelry, sort the stones, and melt down the settings. Then he’d fence them ASAP. Always. So all that jewelry he stole, all that sentimental value, is gone forever.

      These works are priceless not only for their craftsmanship and beauty, but their historic significance as well. They were literally created to be fit for a King, or Queen.

      Unfortunately, the intrinsic value of those old, perfect stones on today’s market, far outweighs their historic or artistic value. There is likely some Sociopathic Oligarchs who think those stones would look better in modern settings, and be better served by being worn around, and not just put on display in some museum where nobody goes.

      That’s a lot of loose stones, some of them very large, and some small. There are enough to make many, many pieces of jewelry. Perhaps there will be a bit of a black market among jewelers who cater to the very wealthy, to sell works that includes a Louvre stone or two.

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      “Why do you think these are the stolen items?”
      “Well, for one, I just took these pictures in my cellar of stolen jewels…”

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    I never understood stealing high value items. That shit is gonna be so hot it’d take a deep network to fence.

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      Just give them to some local children to play with.

      As an aside, am I the only one who always thought Alfred was kinda a piece of shit for that story? Like a lot of Batman stuff hasn’t aged well, but even when I first watched that movie, going scorched earth for a jewel thief was fucked up.

      Some people want to watch the world burn. Alfred actually did set their world on fire and watched it burn.

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        Things with historical value are worth far more than the cost of their raw materials. These are crown jewels, not copper pipe being sold by meth addicts.

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          Yeah, I know, but the thing with that is that everyone will know it’s stolen, so no one dares to buy it. Because otherwise they will sit on super rare stolen items, which could land them in prison for the rest of their lives. To the only way to fend it is to melt it down, reshape the stones and sell it for its materials for far less than it’s original value, or sell it to someone who wanted these specifically and hired you to the job. But again, why would you want to sit on something as hot as this…

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          I mean, they don’t have that high of a melting point… you’ll end up with a lump of worthless alumina, sure, but if you really want to melt them, you can. 🤷‍♂️

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          Melt the gold/silver, the stones can be re-shaped. It will lose value but I think it’s the only way to fend it.

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    Last headline I saw about this said 7 minutes. Pretty soon the thieves will be reaching back in time to grab these things.

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    Best thing to do is to smash them and sell them afterwards to different people, no?

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    Oh no, the world is missing some shiny rocks. I demand the planet cease rotating until these rocks are restituted!

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    So you have the jewels. Now what? Do they just go into some rich person’s secret collection? It’s not like you can fence these things.

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      When the French Blue was stolen after the revolution, it was recut and probably became the Hope Diamond.

      If they can’t find a buyer, they’ll melt it down and recut any gems that are too recognizable. Easy money, if you know the right people.

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        In the melt down and recut scenario, is it “easy money” though? Seems like robbing the most famous museum in the planet would be inviting one of the most well resourced investigations over gems that I presume could have been stolen from somewhere a little more low profile.

        I’m not remotely knowledgeable, but it feels like it wouldn’t be worth going after the louvre specifically without confidence you have someone willing to acquire the pieces intact rather than having to erase nearly all their “value” in the process.

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          It certainly wouldn’t be the desired outcome! But the point is that there’s money to be made either way.

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      Float a line to the Saudi Royal family Jared Kushner, they’d buy them no shame at all

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      They think they’ll dismantle and melt them and try to fence the stones (stones, especially famous ones are pretty worthless). They should get about 200 k€ for the lot if they’re lucky. At least according to art specialists debating on news channels.

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        If they’re sophisticated thieves, they will be sold intact to some overseas billionaire for much more than that. You’d be surprised (or maybe not that surprised) how much stolen art and artefacts winds up in the private collections of rich assholes.

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        Feels like that would be super high risk for relatively low reward. I would have guessed if you wanted some relatively anonymous gems you’d do just as well with much less risk finding a couple of much lower profile jewelry stores or something.

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            I suppose I may be overestimating Louvre security. I guess I would assume a criminal might have to be somewhat smart to overcome what I presumed to be higher security than you might find at a typical target for idiot criminals.

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              Oh yes, there’s basically no security. At least nothing to deal with a quick grab like that. The only concern seems to have been terrorism. And even then,it was clearly not very well taken into account.

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                Curious why you got a downvote, if there’s a good reason, I would have found a reply more informative…

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                  Presumably because I said "no security ", which is a bit of an exaggeration. Very inadequate security would have been better. Supposedly there’s a plan to upgrade the whole thing, but that should take a year or two still.

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      They’ll be broken down, metal smelted, gems recut if necessary. They’re gone, who cares. It’s not like they were the actual crown jewels, just a few baubles.

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        They’re part of the French crown jewels and had been acquired by the Louvre in 1985 so they were kept in (and stolen from) the owner’s house.