My coworker is happy about that. He is 70, single, healthy, and having a halftime office job keeps him busy, happy, and close to his coworker-friends. I can’t imagine him sitting at home, twiddling thumbs. That would probably kill him, or at least drive him insane.
Good for your coworker, but what justifies him not paying taxes on 2.000€ per month, while university students can earn a maximum 556€ per month without paying taxes and social security.
Especially considering that your coworker probably has a considerable wealth built up already, and gets his retirement on top.
Well, he has a high skills job, in which he literally has decades of experience. Any student jobbing will probably take longer to earn the 556€. And this work time will be distracting from the main job: studying.
No, income is. Imagine a student doing a job that earns him €2000 a month. How many hours will this take? This will be nearly a full time job. Is this person still a student then?
And no, it is still the same argument. One person should only work a limited time in order to study and finish university. So it makes sense to put a certain ceiling to the amount spent on working.
The other person is a highly skilled engineer who has nothing to do besides the job, and limiting this person to the lower amount tax bracket would limit him to 15 to 20 hours a month.
(2) Die Immatrikulation nach Absatz 1 Sätze 1 bis 5 ist zu versagen, wenn
die Person in einem Dienst-, Arbeits- oder Ausbildungsverhältnis steht oder sonst beruflich tätig ist, es sei denn, dass sie nachweist, dass sie zeitlich die Möglichkeit hat, sich dem Studium uneingeschränkt zu widmen, insbesondere die erforderlichen Lehrveranstaltungen zu besuchen
This was dropped in the latest version. Combined with §62 Abs. 3 Nr. 1 (unchanged in the latest version):
(3) Studierende können von Amts wegen exmatrikuliert werden, wenn
ein Immatrikulationshindernis nach § 60 nachträglich eintritt,
You were effectively banned from working more than 20 hours a week which I believe comes from some court ruling that working any longer loses your legal student status and makes you inelligble for certain benefits.
Wow! Interesting, TIL. Thanks for looking that up and posting it, I appreciate that!
But it really sounds crazy to me, since there are so many people doing “duales Studium”, studying at the Fernuniversität Hagen which is a public university or doing something like a “Verbundstudium” at Universities of Applied Sciences.
To be fair, you could still do night shifts in full time in one extreme case. And even 10h work weeks might be incompatible with the quoted law, since it might prevent you from attending that one lecture on Friday morning or whatever.
I think it was just aiming to make sure that your studies remained being the focus of your attention - pretty wild though.
My coworker is happy about that. He is 70, single, healthy, and having a halftime office job keeps him busy, happy, and close to his coworker-friends. I can’t imagine him sitting at home, twiddling thumbs. That would probably kill him, or at least drive him insane.
Good for your coworker, but what justifies him not paying taxes on 2.000€ per month, while university students can earn a maximum 556€ per month without paying taxes and social security.
Especially considering that your coworker probably has a considerable wealth built up already, and gets his retirement on top.
Well, he has a high skills job, in which he literally has decades of experience. Any student jobbing will probably take longer to earn the 556€. And this work time will be distracting from the main job: studying.
The argument is, taxes are experience based?
No, income is. Imagine a student doing a job that earns him €2000 a month. How many hours will this take? This will be nearly a full time job. Is this person still a student then?
Looks like you have no clue about living costs and every take you make is a different argument, lol.
I know about our living costs here.
And no, it is still the same argument. One person should only work a limited time in order to study and finish university. So it makes sense to put a certain ceiling to the amount spent on working.
The other person is a highly skilled engineer who has nothing to do besides the job, and limiting this person to the lower amount tax bracket would limit him to 15 to 20 hours a month.
German students are allowed to work at most 20 hours a week or they will be exmatriculated. Full time jobs are impossible.Wrong, see below.
TL;DR: Only in one state prior to November 2024.
That’s just wrong, lol.
Huh, I was nearly certain this was the case.
After a lot of research, apparently the state I live in (Baden-Württemberg) did have this rule.
In §60 Abs. 2 Nr. 4 LHG from December 2020 to November 2024:
This was dropped in the latest version. Combined with §62 Abs. 3 Nr. 1 (unchanged in the latest version):
You were effectively banned from working more than 20 hours a week which I believe comes from some court ruling that working any longer loses your legal student status and makes you inelligble for certain benefits.
Edit: Added links
Wow! Interesting, TIL. Thanks for looking that up and posting it, I appreciate that!
But it really sounds crazy to me, since there are so many people doing “duales Studium”, studying at the Fernuniversität Hagen which is a public university or doing something like a “Verbundstudium” at Universities of Applied Sciences.
To be fair, you could still do night shifts in full time in one extreme case. And even 10h work weeks might be incompatible with the quoted law, since it might prevent you from attending that one lecture on Friday morning or whatever.
I think it was just aiming to make sure that your studies remained being the focus of your attention - pretty wild though.
Cheers!
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