I have felt the same in recent years, but then I started listening to audiobooks while driving/commuting/cleaning and damn, I feel like I have unlocked a super power.
I started last month, and have experienced the following books in their unabridged forms:
H. G. Wells - The time machine
H. G. Wells - The invisible man
H. G. Wells - The war of the worlds
Arthur C Clarke - Rendezvous with Rama
Arthur C Clarke - 2001: A Space Odessy
Isaac Assimov - I, Robot
Jules Verne - The journey to the center of the earth
As you can see, I started with classic sci fi, and it has been great!
OP’s an ass, but reading is a very different sort of stimulation, and I think reading is more valuable to one’s brain health. Some can’t read and derive enjoyment, and that’s fine, but reading is nonetheless helpful to stimulate that part of our brains.
If you’re misinterpreting my usage of “stimulation” as “enjoyment” or “engagement”, which you were, by the looks, then those are feelings.
If you were interpreting me accurately, and yet still dispute the fact that reading is magnitudes more engaging cognitively, and that the original post was about cognitive decline, which cannot be fixed with a stopgap like audiobooks? Then you’re an idiot. Plain and simple.
So you’re saying stimulation is being misrepresented as engagement; then in the next paragraph says, “reading is magnitudes more engaging” to support your argument about stimulation? Or is my cognitively addled brain misreading your comment?
Instead of name-calling, which is usually a sign someone has no good argument, I’ll just drop a link to this paper that used fMRI to scan the brain when presented with information in either audio or written form.
although the representation of semantic information in the human brain is quite complex, the semantic representations evoked by listening versus reading are almost identical.
Thank you for engaging like a mature adult.
EDIT: Or this one that shows that both activities simply activate different parts of the brain. And I would argue that brain activation is stimulation. Unless you’d like to present an alternative definition for stimulation?
None of your articles compare reading to listening. The two I linked show the brain activities involved during those two tasks. Brain activity is stimulation, no?
Notice you’re distorting my words because you couldn’t argue against my real point? Or not, because your brain fried from not needing to use it through audiobooks 🙄…
I said “stimulation”, as in, of the brain.
Clearly you need a strawman to argue against that point.
Oh and shut up about “feel[ings]” it’s literally proven that audiobooks activate the brain less than actual, physical reading. You know, with your fucking eyes.
Clearly already tanked your reading comprehension, for one.
You keep shitting on me, you are not the sole arbiter on how others may enjoy books. Just because I dare to enjoy books in a way that does not comply with your own standards, does not mean you get to comment on that.
It’s a post about literal cognitive decline. Your red herring about audiobooks is misleading. I merely corrected your wrong and you’re sensitive about it.
Ah, the classic “I am not an asshole, I just tell it like it is” shit.
There is another user in this thread who explained the issue without shitting on everyone else’s likes, you could read that and try to be more like that.
He’s being an ass, but he’s right. The two activities are very different sorts of stimulation. I’m both watching and reading The Expanse right now. Love them both! But it’s a different experience and I think the reading is the more valuable to my brain health.
I have felt the same in recent years, but then I started listening to audiobooks while driving/commuting/cleaning and damn, I feel like I have unlocked a super power.
I started last month, and have experienced the following books in their unabridged forms:
H. G. Wells - The time machine
H. G. Wells - The invisible man
H. G. Wells - The war of the worlds
Arthur C Clarke - Rendezvous with Rama
Arthur C Clarke - 2001: A Space Odessy
Isaac Assimov - I, Robot
Jules Verne - The journey to the center of the earth
As you can see, I started with classic sci fi, and it has been great!
Audio books are not books. You only get the story part, but the stimulation is from reading itself.
Who are you to tell me what does or does not stimulate ME?
OP’s an ass, but reading is a very different sort of stimulation, and I think reading is more valuable to one’s brain health. Some can’t read and derive enjoyment, and that’s fine, but reading is nonetheless helpful to stimulate that part of our brains.
I can see that, and if they hadn’t been a dipshit from the start acting all superior, I would have been far more receptive to their point.
Your feelings are not a factor in stimulation of the brain, dumbfuck.
You’re mostly right, but gods you’re an asshole. That working out for you?
Please note that I mention nothing about feelings.
Are you saying that listening does not require the brain? No language comprehension? No imagination? No critical thinking?
Or maybe they simply stimulate different parts of the brain? At different intensities, sure, but stimulation nonetheless?
If you’re misinterpreting my usage of “stimulation” as “enjoyment” or “engagement”, which you were, by the looks, then those are feelings.
If you were interpreting me accurately, and yet still dispute the fact that reading is magnitudes more engaging cognitively, and that the original post was about cognitive decline, which cannot be fixed with a stopgap like audiobooks? Then you’re an idiot. Plain and simple.
So you’re saying stimulation is being misrepresented as engagement; then in the next paragraph says, “reading is magnitudes more engaging” to support your argument about stimulation? Or is my cognitively addled brain misreading your comment?
Instead of name-calling, which is usually a sign someone has no good argument, I’ll just drop a link to this paper that used fMRI to scan the brain when presented with information in either audio or written form.
Thank you for engaging like a mature adult.
EDIT: Or this one that shows that both activities simply activate different parts of the brain. And I would argue that brain activation is stimulation. Unless you’d like to present an alternative definition for stimulation?
“engaging cognitively”, so that’s the first half of your point in shambles 🙄.
Also, I can do articles too,
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11303134/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5105607/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5105607/pdf/nihms805826.pdf
None of your articles compare reading to listening. The two I linked show the brain activities involved during those two tasks. Brain activity is stimulation, no?
You are projecting your own feelings on me.
Just because you get more enjoyment out of reading a book instead of listening to it, does not mean that you can decide how everyone else should feel.
Notice you’re distorting my words because you couldn’t argue against my real point? Or not, because your brain fried from not needing to use it through audiobooks 🙄…
I said “stimulation”, as in, of the brain.
Clearly you need a strawman to argue against that point.
Oh and shut up about “feel[ings]” it’s literally proven that audiobooks activate the brain less than actual, physical reading. You know, with your fucking eyes.
Clearly already tanked your reading comprehension, for one.
You keep shitting on me, you are not the sole arbiter on how others may enjoy books. Just because I dare to enjoy books in a way that does not comply with your own standards, does not mean you get to comment on that.
It’s a post about literal cognitive decline. Your red herring about audiobooks is misleading. I merely corrected your wrong and you’re sensitive about it.
Since you are so good at reading, please read up on tact, you really need it.
If I’m telling a truth, emotions don’t come into play. If not, feel free to correct me (spoiler: you won’t because you can’t)
Ah, the classic “I am not an asshole, I just tell it like it is” shit.
There is another user in this thread who explained the issue without shitting on everyone else’s likes, you could read that and try to be more like that.
Again, read up on tact, you desperately need it.
False
He’s being an ass, but he’s right. The two activities are very different sorts of stimulation. I’m both watching and reading The Expanse right now. Love them both! But it’s a different experience and I think the reading is the more valuable to my brain health.
Different, yes, but stimulation nonetheless.
Their argument was that stimulation is only from reading and not listening.
Cool, you’re as useless as audiobooks. Thanks for exemplifying that.
Unless you’re deaf, they’re not useless. You can not like them, but that doesn’t require such an idiotically dramatic reaction.