The solution you mention includes millions starving to death.
And so would my personal choice to not drive. I’m not going to be able to change the culture all on my own, and even if I were to influence this entire comment section to somehow go carless for a year it would be undone by a few private jet flights. Maybe go after events like the World Economic Forum instead of trying to push middle class people through guilt.
I’ve done years of public transit, biking, and walking to get to/from jobs, classes, groceries, etc. It’s not something I can continue at the moment in my current situation. Even if it was, I’m not going to pretend that society is constructed in a way that makes it a reasonable option for most people. Or that it’s their personal responsibility to do whatever they can to make it reasonable for them.
The basic fact is that in many places, a car is required to get from where you are to where you need to go. It’s rapidly changing for the better with wider availability of things like ebikes, and the goal should be high density mixed use with everything closely available through public transit, but that’s not an option for wide swaths of the population. I’m also not going to go down the path of trying to somehow blame people for where they may have to live for any number of reasons that I’m not privy to.
Regardless, I was just answering a flippantly asked question in a meme community about how someone was expected to get to where the jobs are (while they also were implying that jobs are only in cities).
My answer is valid, regardless of your feelings on the surrounding issues of car centric culture and the horrendous impacts on the world.
And jobs exist outside the cities. Might not be what you want to do for work, but suburbs and towns need local services, and those local services need people to work them. Again, that’s true currently regardless of what the best end state would be.
I wasn’t trying to open some grand discussion on the state of the world, I was just providing the straightforward answer to a question.
There’s plenty of places in lemmy that are wonderful for discussions about the problems of car culture, the terror that is our environment and the multiple lines before catastrophic runaway collapse we have zoomed by, places for discussions about rewilding spaces, for growing your own food, etc.
But this is a meme community. Dude asked a question in a flippant way, he got a flippant answer. It’s not complicated or deep.
The solution you mention includes millions starving to death.
Owning a car does not secure your survival, quite the opposite effect in most cases actually.
And so would my personal choice to not drive. I’m not going to be able to change the culture all on my own, and even if I were to influence this entire comment section to somehow go carless for a year it would be undone by a few private jet flights. Maybe go after events like the World Economic Forum instead of trying to push middle class people through guilt.
I’ve done years of public transit, biking, and walking to get to/from jobs, classes, groceries, etc. It’s not something I can continue at the moment in my current situation. Even if it was, I’m not going to pretend that society is constructed in a way that makes it a reasonable option for most people. Or that it’s their personal responsibility to do whatever they can to make it reasonable for them.
The basic fact is that in many places, a car is required to get from where you are to where you need to go. It’s rapidly changing for the better with wider availability of things like ebikes, and the goal should be high density mixed use with everything closely available through public transit, but that’s not an option for wide swaths of the population. I’m also not going to go down the path of trying to somehow blame people for where they may have to live for any number of reasons that I’m not privy to.
Regardless, I was just answering a flippantly asked question in a meme community about how someone was expected to get to where the jobs are (while they also were implying that jobs are only in cities).
My answer is valid, regardless of your feelings on the surrounding issues of car centric culture and the horrendous impacts on the world.
And jobs exist outside the cities. Might not be what you want to do for work, but suburbs and towns need local services, and those local services need people to work them. Again, that’s true currently regardless of what the best end state would be.
I wasn’t trying to open some grand discussion on the state of the world, I was just providing the straightforward answer to a question.
There’s plenty of places in lemmy that are wonderful for discussions about the problems of car culture, the terror that is our environment and the multiple lines before catastrophic runaway collapse we have zoomed by, places for discussions about rewilding spaces, for growing your own food, etc.
But this is a meme community. Dude asked a question in a flippant way, he got a flippant answer. It’s not complicated or deep.