• apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    The “mother finds this orgasmic” part doesn’t add to how disturbing the concept is though it just makes me feel weird about the writer

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        2 days ago

        Tiger sharks do that. It makes a certain amount of sense. Though it’s odd that it’s just that one kind of elf. It would fit better for a more monstrous race.

        But the thing about being orgasmic is just bizarre.

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          Drow are elves that got twisted specifically by Lloth into hypercompetitiveness among other things.

          It’s cringe but it’s strangely logical cringe.

          There’s actually a lot of metaphysical logic behind the reason there’s like a thousand kinds of elf and they’re all separate races with notable physical differences unlike other groups that mostly settle with “these halflings are taller”

          Tl;Dr elves were originally eladrin, the champion race of good/chaotic. Their chaotic nature means that their children adopt the traits of their environment but as they’re a deliberate Tolkien reference having left their native plane is functionally their original sin, like the elves leaving Valinor in LotR. (Unless I’m misremembering the specifics, but the vibe is still right)

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            What exactly is logical about this detail? Is a pregnant drow orgasming for no apparent reason going to drive her to be more competitive?

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              When you hear “Lloth twisted” you could substitute “magically bioengineered” if that helps. Her goal was to turn an essentialist race of good/chaotic beings into lawful/evil ones, to do that she made physical changes that reinforce her desired behaviors.

              Lloth linked unavoidable fetal Social Darwinism into physical pleasure for the future matriarchs of her new elven society. Lloth wanted a society that glorified the survival of the fittest above practically all else, and this was a means towards the end.

              Yes, it’s edgy cringe, but that’s the point: this is a setting with objective capital-E Evil gods and Evil is fucking cringe.

              (Also it was made by horny super dweebs)

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                It still doesn’t help. I could see the point in a drow orgasming from eating another drow. Or even ordering another drow to eat someone. But from a drow in her womb that she has no control over eating its twin? That doesn’t encourage any sort of behavior, beyond getting pregnant and hoping they get lucky. And you can do that a lot better just by making them orgasm from the act of getting pregnant.

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                  If you don’t see how a literal Darwinian struggle resulting in both physical pleasure and a direct demonstration of your god’s philosophy follows a logical chain of thought that’s just a straight up skill issue.

                  Would it help if you knew that they live in the Underdark, aka the womb of the earth, and their ultimate goal is to burst out of that womb and reconquer the sunlit surface?

                  Like, it’s not really subtle once you have the required background lore. Pretty blatant metaphor, in fact.

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          The entirety of the drow is inspired by old femdom porn mixed with a violent ultra competitive society like the worst of Rome, the middle ages, and cyberpunk corpratism combined. They were considered an evil race for the entire life of that concept.

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      2 days ago

      I mean sure, but I don’t think it’s like, bad to be included either. Still serves to make them fucked up imo

      As in, Im reading it as the mother knows that’s what is happening and derives intense pleasure from it that it becomes physical elation

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        It’s not like the drow have any choice in the matter. And it doesn’t make any sense that they would find that orgasmic. It’s just a writer’s bizarre fetishes.