Progressives need messaging and a concise platform. ‘Fix housing, healthcare, inflation, immigration, monopolies, LGBT rights, income inequality, unemployment, gerrymandering, climate, education…’ Everyone who’s even capable of listening past 4 objectives knows they’re not all going to happen and assumes that means they’re all bullshit.
I’ve really been liking “Tax wealth not work” but I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
The problem is that Progressives are about… progress. And we all have our own priorities.
If you make the entire platform “Trans rights” then you are going to have women and “minorities” wondering why you are abandoning them and so many others wondering about economic support and so forth.
Don’t believe me? Look at how many dumbfucks proudly turned the 2024 Presidential election into a single issue election where, somehow, they still decided that Biden (Kamala who?) would be worse than trump when it comes to Palestine. EVERYTHING else was ignored.
Whereas chuds just want to hurt people. And while they might prefer their bogeyman get hurt more, they can still be happy to know that at least THOSE people are getting hurt.
The problem isn’t focusing on one issue. The problem is that periodically, performative centrists will seek to prove their centrism by performatively sacrificing a minority group on the pyre.
Democrats are a coalition party. They can’t afford to sacrifice a chunk of their base in a vain attempt to appeal to suburban white Republicans. Democrats need to keep their coalition together, which is far more diverse than the Republican coalition that mostly caters to straight white Christians.
Democrats from time to time are tempted to pick one or two of the minority groups in their coalition to throw into a woodchipper. The thought process is that if they just sacrifice the one group the right is screaming the loudest about, that somehow they can get Republicans to vote Democrat. It never works, but it plays to the biases of the Democratic leadership, who themselves are largely straight white Christians.
2024 wasn’t about Palestinian activists demanding the entire campaign be made about them. What happened in 2024 was that Democrats decided that it was the Palestinian-Americans turn to be thrown onto the pyre, a ritual sacrifice to attempt to win straight white Christian votes. The leadership made the calculus that by sacrificing Palestinian Americans, they would gain more votes than they would lose. Muslim Americans would inevitably refuse to support Democrats for abandoning them, but Democrats would gain more Republican and Zionist voters in return. The DNC didn’t want Palestinians and their allies to vote for them; they wanted Republicans to vote for them.
That calculus didn’t work. The Palestinians had a lot more friends than the DNC gambled when they decided to sacrifice them. And it cost the Democrats the election.
Ultimately, what side would be best for Palestine is completely irrelevant. This was an active conscious choice on the part of DNC leadership. They actively chose to abandon Palestinians and their allies. They did so knowing full well it would cost them a ton of votes. They just gambled that they would win more bigot votes in return. That gamble failed, and then they turned around and blamed the loss on the people they fully expected to not vote for them, entirely due to their own conscious choices and actions.
Not even the DNC are stupid enough to expect the votes of people they deliberately choose to sacrifice. But, apparently that bar isn’t one you’re able to clear.
Democrats don’t mind fascism as long as they are the ones doing it. If someones red lines isnt letting brown people around the world get killed I don’t care what else they support, they are protecting THEIR self interests over the lives of others and can’t be trusted when they call themselves allies to the marginalized.
Odd downvotes. You’re just quoting text books.
Rich democrats are rich first.
Conflict Model social study boils down somewhat to “Those in control of a power imbalance will strive to maintain imbalance in their favor.”
Maybe some bruised blue hearts?
Come to socialism, anarchy, communism, solarpunk.
We have something for everyone at the bakedgoods table. Seeds sharing break game theory’s fallicies.
I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
You mean the normalcy that allowed Trump1.0 to happen in the first place, and allowed Trump2.0 to grab and pervert as much power as he has now? I fully agree, there is a larger lesson to be learned from all this than “phew, thankfully the Democrats won this time, and Trump can’t run again”. There are systemic problems behind all this.
Focusing on the platform just unilaterally raises the bar for people voting democrat. As you’ve identified, many people do not have the attention span for all of that.
Plus it is not mutually exclusive that the democratic party is both part of the problem and the only viable vehicle to platform solutions. In fact, that is one of the messages the GOP has used quite successfully. “Drain the swamp.”
If you have not watched the documentary I linked above than I must politely suggest to you that you may not be aware of all the underhanded systematic tactics employed against progressive candidates. People are missing the forest for the trees when it comes to democracy. No need to fix elections when the rich own 95% of the horses in the race.
Progressives need messaging and a concise platform. ‘Fix housing, healthcare, inflation, immigration, monopolies, LGBT rights, income inequality, unemployment, gerrymandering, climate, education…’ Everyone who’s even capable of listening past 4 objectives knows they’re not all going to happen and assumes that means they’re all bullshit.
I’ve really been liking “Tax wealth not work” but I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
The problem is that Progressives are about… progress. And we all have our own priorities.
If you make the entire platform “Trans rights” then you are going to have women and “minorities” wondering why you are abandoning them and so many others wondering about economic support and so forth.
Don’t believe me? Look at how many dumbfucks proudly turned the 2024 Presidential election into a single issue election where, somehow, they still decided that Biden (Kamala who?) would be worse than trump when it comes to Palestine. EVERYTHING else was ignored.
Whereas chuds just want to hurt people. And while they might prefer their bogeyman get hurt more, they can still be happy to know that at least THOSE people are getting hurt.
The problem isn’t focusing on one issue. The problem is that periodically, performative centrists will seek to prove their centrism by performatively sacrificing a minority group on the pyre.
Democrats are a coalition party. They can’t afford to sacrifice a chunk of their base in a vain attempt to appeal to suburban white Republicans. Democrats need to keep their coalition together, which is far more diverse than the Republican coalition that mostly caters to straight white Christians.
Democrats from time to time are tempted to pick one or two of the minority groups in their coalition to throw into a woodchipper. The thought process is that if they just sacrifice the one group the right is screaming the loudest about, that somehow they can get Republicans to vote Democrat. It never works, but it plays to the biases of the Democratic leadership, who themselves are largely straight white Christians.
2024 wasn’t about Palestinian activists demanding the entire campaign be made about them. What happened in 2024 was that Democrats decided that it was the Palestinian-Americans turn to be thrown onto the pyre, a ritual sacrifice to attempt to win straight white Christian votes. The leadership made the calculus that by sacrificing Palestinian Americans, they would gain more votes than they would lose. Muslim Americans would inevitably refuse to support Democrats for abandoning them, but Democrats would gain more Republican and Zionist voters in return. The DNC didn’t want Palestinians and their allies to vote for them; they wanted Republicans to vote for them.
That calculus didn’t work. The Palestinians had a lot more friends than the DNC gambled when they decided to sacrifice them. And it cost the Democrats the election.
Ultimately, what side would be best for Palestine is completely irrelevant. This was an active conscious choice on the part of DNC leadership. They actively chose to abandon Palestinians and their allies. They did so knowing full well it would cost them a ton of votes. They just gambled that they would win more bigot votes in return. That gamble failed, and then they turned around and blamed the loss on the people they fully expected to not vote for them, entirely due to their own conscious choices and actions.
Not even the DNC are stupid enough to expect the votes of people they deliberately choose to sacrifice. But, apparently that bar isn’t one you’re able to clear.
And that about sums everything up and why “just focus on one issue” would never work.
Democrats don’t mind fascism as long as they are the ones doing it. If someones red lines isnt letting brown people around the world get killed I don’t care what else they support, they are protecting THEIR self interests over the lives of others and can’t be trusted when they call themselves allies to the marginalized.
Odd downvotes. You’re just quoting text books. Rich democrats are rich first. Conflict Model social study boils down somewhat to “Those in control of a power imbalance will strive to maintain imbalance in their favor.”
Maybe some bruised blue hearts? Come to socialism, anarchy, communism, solarpunk. We have something for everyone at the bakedgoods table. Seeds sharing break game theory’s fallicies.
You mean the normalcy that allowed Trump1.0 to happen in the first place, and allowed Trump2.0 to grab and pervert as much power as he has now? I fully agree, there is a larger lesson to be learned from all this than “phew, thankfully the Democrats won this time, and Trump can’t run again”. There are systemic problems behind all this.
Focusing on the platform just unilaterally raises the bar for people voting democrat. As you’ve identified, many people do not have the attention span for all of that.
Plus it is not mutually exclusive that the democratic party is both part of the problem and the only viable vehicle to platform solutions. In fact, that is one of the messages the GOP has used quite successfully. “Drain the swamp.”
If you have not watched the documentary I linked above than I must politely suggest to you that you may not be aware of all the underhanded systematic tactics employed against progressive candidates. People are missing the forest for the trees when it comes to democracy. No need to fix elections when the rich own 95% of the horses in the race.