Democrats hope to use the government shutdown standoff to extend health care subsidies while Trump shows no signs he is willing to negotiate.
  • Kokesh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    1 小时前

    Isn’t he aiming for government shutdown since the beginning? After all he wants to be Orange Shitler.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    7·
    5 小时前

    …and what if the Democrats try to shut it down, but Trump and Scotus figure out a way to not have a shut down without democrat involvement.

    …there, that would be Trump in power permanently.

    • bampop@lemmy.world
      1·
      18 分钟前

      Trump and Scotus figure out a way to not have a shut down without democrat involvement.

      When all rules are optional, that part isn’t really an “if”

  • GreenBottles@lemmy.world
    30·
    8 小时前

    I’m still waiting to see who these ‘radical left democrats’ are… cuz I’m more left and radical than ANYONE that’s elected currently. I don’t understand how that doesn’t just get old…

    • Joeffect@lemmy.world
      112·
      7 小时前

      You’re not radical or left enough to have gone all the way around to being extremely right… it’s like a circle…

    • pjwestin@lemmy.world
      21·
      9 小时前

      I know that was Schumer’s excuse last time, but I’m not sure that really adds up. The federal courts can still fund themselves for a few weeks after a shutdown. Also, the lower courts are slowing Trump down, but the Supreme Court is consistently ruling in his favor. If anything, he should want the courts to be running as quickly as possible so he can keep appealing and getting the Supreme Court to overturn all the restrictions the lower courts are placing on him.

      Plus, while ICE is being designated an essential agency and ICE agents are expected to fulfill their full duties during a shutdown, they do it without pay (and get back-pay when the shutdown ends). That’s not a big deal for a week, but if you stretch a shutdown out for a month, that starts to hurt. I’d like to see how loyal Trump’s dogs are when they’re not getting fed.

      • BanMe@lemmy.world
        21·
        7 小时前

        Schumer said after the fact, or his underlings leaked, that he knew public perception last time would have favored the Republicans even more as a result, as they successfully blamed the shutdown on Dems. But now he no longer sees this equation that way.

        I’m not a big fan of his right now but I like to at least hope that level of strategy is actually happening

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          18 分钟前

          Schumer said after the fact, or his underlings leaked, that he knew public perception last time would have favored the Republicans even more as a result, as they successfully blamed the shutdown on Dems.

          I’m not buying this narrative. After a solid year of democrats insisting that biden was pressuring netanyahu behind the scenes when absolutely nothing of the sort was actually happening, I place no faith at all in any assertion of what’s going on behind the scenes. This is a post facto justification of actions schumer took because he wanted to. If I were to give him the benefit of the doubt here and accept the “public perception wouldn’t be with us” narrative, the best I can say is that he’s a spineless amoral windsock who is utterly incapable of leadership.

          But now he no longer sees this equation that way.

          He’ll find some new excuse to cave. It may take time. He might actually go through with it this time, but it won’t last more than a week and there will be zero concessions for ending the shutdown.

    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      29·
      12 小时前

      Everything left of themselves are radical to Facists. Alex Jones got a lot of leeway back in Bush days because people thought him being against Bush meant he was closer to center, but it was the opposite. Bush wasn’t terrible enough for Jones.

      Same with Fuentes and Kirk really; groypers attacked TPUSA mostly for not being racist enough to Jews.

  • drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    40·
    12 小时前

    Government is starting to break down. Officials are being arrested by ICE. This really feels like the pot is so ready to boil, which just sucks for the average Joe trying to get by.

    • BigFig@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      12 小时前

      Pots been boiling for years, the right just put a lock on the lid like a pressure cooker.

      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
        101·
        10 小时前

        And took the knob, and sold it to Russia. They’ll sell us a new knob, but it just spins on the axle, occasionally turns red hot, and yells banal insults at you.