• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    13 hours ago

    Bush II was called a fascist FFS. Back when we still had a court that didn’t believe the president was a king actually and congress would at least occasionally push back on the executive.

    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au
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      Bush 2 was a fascist. Stealing the 2000 election, and constructing this whole extrajudicial framework with ICE and Guantanamo and whatnot, very directly laid the groundwork for what’s happening right now. Trump is only able to direct a law enforcement agency to wander the land executing his will without having to convince anyone whose allegiance is to the law instead of their orders, because George Bush set it up for him in the first place. Right-wing media at the time getting in on defining a fantastical narrative under which they could direct the anger of their followers at “enemies,” Bush saying that atheists shouldn’t be considered citizens… it was all there. It was just new, so it was just getting started, it couldn’t have much impact and the country resisted a lot of it.

      Trump is more fascist than Bush was. But the people who were seeing the first little seeds of something that could grow into something horrifying, all the way back then, were 100% right.

      • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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        People were saying to anyone who would listen that Guantanamo was going to lead exactly where we are today. The sane washing as we call it now goes back so far.

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        Let’s not forget who came after W. Those who could have undone the damage but only cemented it further and built it up.

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      You hear harsh words and assume they must be hyperbole without trying to determine the truth. The truth is there have been fascist elements in US government for its entire history which have waxed and waned over time; it was waxing under Bush II and now it’s a full moon. When people warned about fascism you say they were being unreasonable, even though you seem to acknowledge that Trump really is fascist, vindicating their warnings.

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      13 hours ago

      Just because Dubya wasn’t given the freedom to exact fascism, doesn’t mean The Decider didn’t want it.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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      I’m not gonna go into detail because PhilipTheBucket already did that, but: Yeah, the court only stole the election for him.