• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      They need to shut it down AND call for a nationwide general strike. And then we don’t stop until every Republican has been removed from government, gerrymandering has been outlawed and fixed, and RCV is the law of the land.

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        Seriously. That’s what’s lacking from nearly all Democratic politicians. They don’t want to lead, they just want resistance to materialize externally, do some tone policing, and then take credit for any successes. When you’re systematically powerless, you should be building your power to impact the system from external sources.

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      They’re going to let the shutdown happen but they’re not going to point the blame where it needs to go. They’re going to be spineless and let the Republicans blame them for the shutdown.

      They absolutely have to shut it down. That said, if they lose the messaging game (they will) they will absolutely lose this fight.

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      That’s exactly what Republicans want. They’ve already proven previously that the people don’t actually care about a shutdown occurring. And that just lets t hem further reduce government expenses. The things that get shutdown are things they can’t grift from anyway so they don’t care about them.

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        It’s a lose/lose, but at this point the fascist-controlled agencies are actively working against their intended purposes, so losing in the way that shuts down the government is the lesser evil.

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          losing in the way that shuts down the government is the lesser evil.

          Standards are low. We can easily do better if we break these legacy political parties duoopoly on the electoral system.

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            Okay, but that’s not going to happen by October or whenever the funding deadline is.

            You gotta have a plan that’s actually actionable in the short term, or else you’re just indulging in pointless wankery.

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      Shutting it down would be giving him what he wants: expanded powers and no one to answer to (because the government is shut down).