• talkingpumpkin@lemmy.worldOP
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    13 hours ago

    Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir announced that he will raise annexing the West Bank at the next cabinet meeting in response to the the recognitions.

    “The recognition by the UK, Canada, and Australia of a ‘Palestinian’ state, as a prize for the murderous Nukhba terrorists, requires immediate countermeasures,” said Ben-Gvir.

    I don’t even know how to comment this.

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      12 hours ago

      Israel’s terrorism needs to be stopped, along with its genocide.

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      11 hours ago

      They are trying to make opposition feel hopeless, but the truth is their continued aggression is totally reliant on foreign support.

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    From the river to the sea there will be democracy, human rights, and equal political rights for people of all ethnicities and confessions.

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      @theacharnian

      I get why you hate Israel’s government, but a lot of pro-Palestinian people are just choosing to ignore who Palestinians really are.

      Palestinians aren’t exactly democratic, don’t care much about human rights, and don’t respect other ethnicities or religions.

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        Can you not see how hideously racist your comment is?

        Palestinians aren’t exactly democratic, don’t care much about human rights, and don’t respect other ethnicities or religions.

        You’re just going to leave that there?

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        Look, in all honesty… both Palestinians and Israeli have failed at democracy: one side put Hamas into power (well, in Gaza) and the other side gave power to Netanyahu…

        I couldn’t say which is worse between the two governments, nor I think debating it will get us anywhere; what I can say (with absolute certainty and no fear of being disproved) is that neither one reach the minimum level of decency human beings should expect from any government.

        Let’s stop debating who is more wrong between Israel and Hamas: they are both unimaginably wrong.

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          I couldn’t say which is worse between the two governments

          Hamas. Hamas is worse, but then again it’s barely a government. Which is one of the many reasons why palestine is not a country.

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          They didn’t say “Hamas” , they said “Palestinians”, i.e. the ethnic group.
          Just for exposition, let’s flip it round and see how disgusting it is:

          I get why you hate Hamas, but a lot of pro-Jewish people are just choosing to ignore who Jews really are.

          Jews aren’t exactly democratic, don’t care much about human rights, and don’t respect other ethnicities or religions.

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        On the one hand you put the Israeli government. On the other hand you put Palestinians, like …the entire people.

        And then you go running your mouth about what Palestinians “really are”, what they care about, what they respect or not. Palestinians. Like the entire people.

        That’s fucking hate speech.

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    Would be good to see any following of that though.

    Because as of now - Palestinian state is basically a virtual entity, and unless Israel will be forced to retreat and international peacekeeping contingent will have its boots on the ground in Gaza - it’s all just empty talk while people are getting murdered.

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    Better late than never, Keir. Good on the current UK government for not riding out the September deadline to the very end, though. I’ll take the silver linings where I can find them these days. The joint statement is good too, lends more weight.

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      11 hours ago

      Not so good on equating criticizing Israel with terrorism. Or supporting disallowing protesters from being able to testify as to their motivations for breaking a law. Or for charging people with decades in prison for climate and environmental actions good and starmer cannot be used in the same sentence honestly. He’s a cynical piece of shit.

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      10 hours ago

      It might be the right moral decision but was it done for the right reason? The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that the timing of this straight after the Donald Trump state visit to the UK cannot be coincidental, Trump must have Okayed this and there must be a bigger plan. Maybe. Ha.

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        I honestly don’t care about the motivations right now if it does literally anything to help. If the reasoning was shitty then let’s deal with that later

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    13 hours ago

    Worthless thanks for nothing you hacks. We need all new leadership clearly. Hacks being polits doing a symbolic gesture 2 years into a genocide.