• DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    I just hope their primaries keep some unity and don’t make her or Newson losing votes depending on the pick. Dems are too split inside and I could see neo-liberals not voting for her or lefties not voting for Newson. If Dems can’t find unity they will not win.

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      15 hours ago

      We’ve gotta do everything we can to prevent a Newsom or other craven neoliberal lunatic from getting the nomination, otherwise we are going to get a much much worse traitor lunatic next time around.

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        12 hours ago

        America will not vote a minority woman as President in this century. They would never even vote for a woman.

        Right candidate, wrong country.

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          I think there’s something to that, but I think with a sufficient mass movement behind it, such a candidate could overcome the obvious treason.

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            Popular vote isn’t enough in the United states. Also, Hilary is Bill’s wife. That’s part of why she got as many votes as she did. If I was American, I would vote for AOC but I know she’d never win. A woman of colour has no chance down there. I hate saying it, but it is what it is.

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          Yes, and as many of us need to say it as possible or they will ratfuck their way to running an unelectable republican-lite in the general.

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          That’s how parties that don’t actually serve the majority end up dying. It’s a flaw in democracy that it can be so easily corrupted by the wealthy classes.

          It ends up all being a sham, then a shame, then a dictatorship.

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          No, of course I would vote against the Republican if the Democrat were Newsom, that’s just common sense. I’m saying that we need to do everything we can to prevent him from being the nominee now, while we can still affect things.

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      16 hours ago

      I consider myself a neoliberal, and I am going to vote for AOC. I have grown quite fond of her over the years and she is quite the politician these days. She’s extremely sharp and polished. I think she’s ready.

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        Neo-Liberaliam / Economic Liberalism is part of what got Trump elected. The sense that Capitalism was beyond the reach of meaningful governance, and will always just aid the wealthy getting wealthier - created a hunger for radical change.

        People end up just wanting radical change out of frustration, regardless of what direction that change takes (left or right). They just want a break in unrelenting Capitalism.

        Which explains why for many, Bernie, AOC, and Trump, were all likable/popular choices at the same time.

        Newsome as a moderating figure will prevent any strong shift away from the service of Capitalism as above all else, and hence is a huge danger to the politics of equilibrium. It’s ratchet theory, keeps things stuck.

        … Neo-Liberals should be embarrassed to admit who they are, because they caused this, by claiming that Capitalism and deregulation is a moderate position (steering the ship of state between the left and the right) - when infact that’s an economic extremist viewpoint which excuses inept government and the corruptions of money… and when perpetuated infinitum as it is, it becomes the cause of voter radicalism.

        Neo-Liberal economic policies create the unshifting corruption and two-tier “too big to fail, too rich to jail” system that people want to vote against.

        In this sense Newsome is dead weight, representing Bidenism 2.0. Neo-Liberals should be ashamed of themselves for not just accepting their part in creating the quagmire, but wanting to continue it.