Adorable that these people don’t think that this election won’t see even more voting fraud than the last one.
I mean, if the last one was stolen, why wouldn’t the next one be, as well? He’s going to have three more years to build systems that ensure a permanent Republican ascendency.
I don’t mean voter fraud is the theory. Yes, obviously it definitely happened and will happen again. I mean the commonly-repeated theory that there “won’t be an election” next year. That is a great way to just capitulate the election in advance.
Honestly I might have replied to the wrong comment. I’m sorry.
I mean the commonly-repeated theory that there “won’t be an election” next year.
Oh, there WILL BE “elections”. They need the circus spectacle to justify their existence.
But with Trump’s cronies in control of ballot machines, where votes can be deleted or altered after the fact, future elections are likely to be entirely performative; a thin veneer of legitimacy papering over a massive edifice of fraud and rot.
Trump could legitimately get zero votes and the voting system will still show him with a landslide victory. That’s their objective, after all. It’s torn straight from the Chinese and North Korea and Nazi Germany playbooks.
Just stop with this. It’s a form of obeying in advance: buying into the despair of nothing being possible, and everything being broken.
Their plan is to make it seem like there’s no point in fighting so nobody does, but if we give up the fight three years out we’re just conceding that ground to them.
Yes, they’re going to cheat. So we have to make it impossible for them to manipulate. Yes, they might try to make it look like a landslide anyway. So we have to be ready to take every single possible thing all the way through the courts.
Yes, the Supreme Court is a captured entity as well. So we have to overwhelm and clog up the apparatus they’re using to make it do horrible things and force everyone from the poll worker all the way up to the SCOTUS justice to publicly go on record and say “voter fraud is ok.” Then, when fascism falls (and it always does, don’t kid yourself) we know who to throw in jail first.
Don’t give up in advance. They want you to love Big Orange Brother or fear Big Orange Brother with every fiber of your being; either way, you’ll never stand up to him.
We assume there’s an election until there isn’t. We assume it’s fair (or fair-ish) until we have proof it isn’t. Anything less is saying “eh, you can have this one.”
Do you have facts to support that voter fraud occurred? Good faith question on my part. From the security people I follow that lean towards it didn’t happen. If it and there are facts it would be good to know.
People I primarily follow with background in security are
Matt Blaze
Brian Krebs
Thanks
The links I have are on my computer and that’s at work, sorry. The one thing I can tell you for certain is that Musk’s media manipulation on Twitter constituted voter fraud. There are a ton of rumors about more direct manipulation, a lot of which I find unconvincing, but some of which I think merit further investigation.
Adorable that these people don’t think that this election won’t see even more voting fraud than the last one.
I mean, if the last one was stolen, why wouldn’t the next one be, as well? He’s going to have three more years to build systems that ensure a permanent Republican ascendency.
Cool theory. Not helpful.
We have to assume there’ll be an election until there isn’t.
Not a theory. (2) (3) There are now lawsuits in motion due to this.
I don’t mean voter fraud is the theory. Yes, obviously it definitely happened and will happen again. I mean the commonly-repeated theory that there “won’t be an election” next year. That is a great way to just capitulate the election in advance.
Honestly I might have replied to the wrong comment. I’m sorry.
Oh, there WILL BE “elections”. They need the circus spectacle to justify their existence.
But with Trump’s cronies in control of ballot machines, where votes can be deleted or altered after the fact, future elections are likely to be entirely performative; a thin veneer of legitimacy papering over a massive edifice of fraud and rot.
Trump could legitimately get zero votes and the voting system will still show him with a landslide victory. That’s their objective, after all. It’s torn straight from the Chinese and North Korea and Nazi Germany playbooks.
Just stop with this. It’s a form of obeying in advance: buying into the despair of nothing being possible, and everything being broken.
Their plan is to make it seem like there’s no point in fighting so nobody does, but if we give up the fight three years out we’re just conceding that ground to them.
Yes, they’re going to cheat. So we have to make it impossible for them to manipulate. Yes, they might try to make it look like a landslide anyway. So we have to be ready to take every single possible thing all the way through the courts.
Yes, the Supreme Court is a captured entity as well. So we have to overwhelm and clog up the apparatus they’re using to make it do horrible things and force everyone from the poll worker all the way up to the SCOTUS justice to publicly go on record and say “voter fraud is ok.” Then, when fascism falls (and it always does, don’t kid yourself) we know who to throw in jail first.
Don’t give up in advance. They want you to love Big Orange Brother or fear Big Orange Brother with every fiber of your being; either way, you’ll never stand up to him.
We assume there’s an election until there isn’t. We assume it’s fair (or fair-ish) until we have proof it isn’t. Anything less is saying “eh, you can have this one.”
Do you have facts to support that voter fraud occurred? Good faith question on my part. From the security people I follow that lean towards it didn’t happen. If it and there are facts it would be good to know. People I primarily follow with background in security are Matt Blaze Brian Krebs Thanks
The links I have are on my computer and that’s at work, sorry. The one thing I can tell you for certain is that Musk’s media manipulation on Twitter constituted voter fraud. There are a ton of rumors about more direct manipulation, a lot of which I find unconvincing, but some of which I think merit further investigation.