Some of the highest-ranking officials in the federal government used Charlie Kirk’s podcast, guest-hosted by Vice President JD Vance, to lay out their plans.

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    18 hours ago

    You think the Democrats needed help demotivating their voter? They did that all by themselves. They were never going to be able to coast forever on being “not as bad as that guy”.

    Establishment Democrats did everything in their power to keep from being a party capable of inspiring anyone. Even so, the entire grass-roots infrastructure of the Democratic party would crumble without progressive volunteers. We’ve stood by this party through insult after insult and failure after failure.

    Even now, with the country in the grasp of full blown fascism, we can’t even get establishment Democrats to reliably back their own fucking nominee for the mayor of NYC. And you think it’s progressive criticism that’s demotivating voters? You are fucking insane.

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      13 hours ago

      needed it or not, there was a clear effort to divide and demotivate left-of-center voters.

      Look, you’re even doing it now!

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        12 hours ago

        So what, are we supposed to ignore reality and hope voters don’t notice? You think that’s a reliable strategy to avoid fascism? That’s not how society works. Brushing Democratic party flaws under the rug doesn’t keep voters from knowing the problems aren’t getting solved. Fascism thrives in the vacuum of Democratic ineffectiveness.

        And I wonder if you level the same criticisms when the establishment punches left (which they do far more than punching right). Surrendering to Republican framing on everything from Israel to defunding police to trans issues is what loses elections.