“I can say that he has been very cooperative,” Cox continued, possibly misgendering the roommate. “This partner has been incredibly cooperative, had no idea that this was happening and is working with investigators right now.”
This has to be intentional. Shitting in one hand calling it “civility” then in the other lobbing a grenade of transphobia. Love it.
I agree that we don’t know and I’m speculating on the hypothetical where the informant is trans. But that’s the convo above? I was just replying to that.
We don’t know the shooter’s motives, but there is no way that this is part of any trans-supportive organization strategy, that would be a ridiculous claim. It has zero characteristics of any organized actions, and reactions until now have been perfectly in line with it being unorganized. I don’t think we’re better off with Kirk dead, genuinely. His impact is bigger now, and his fascism spread is only accelerated. I hadn’t seen a single video of him for years and now the US is gonna move quicker to kill trans people than ever before, and to crack down and kill leftists too. With no propaganda push prepared, no defenses set up, this was an opening salvo across the battle lines at a fort without even digging a trench.
You are arguing everywhere about the specifics of the situation, but like Awoo, I am trying to get to the bottom of when snitching is acceptable, but I don’t think it’s NEVER a justifiable action. In this case, we should be thinking about whether talking had any positive impact on the way media reported on trans people generally (again, assuming the informant is trans). I think I agree that in this case, seeing how the media reacted, it helped nothing and was likely a mistake
That’s certainly a take that you’re entitled to, but not one that I can relate to. I don’t think Hitler’s ideas would be less popular today if he were still alive to act on them. America has been killing and criminalizing marginalized people for more than two centuries. Even the people who are nominally fans of Kirk couldn’t make it more clear that they truly could not give less of a shit about him. They hated trans people and leftists yesterday, they hate them today, they’ll hate them tomorrow. The sun rose the day before Kirk died, and it rose again the day after. This is the long, continuous, and inevitable result of imperial decay, not a consequence of one rando tripping over his dick and landing on the button turns America into a genocidal settler colony.
There’s no way this isn’t going to sound accusatory, but I don’t mean it as an accusation: If someone on this site accepts the premise that we are ruled by fascists who hate them unconditionally and want to see them dead, and believes that they can secure favorable treatment for themselves by proactively reaching out to the fascists to mark their friends, neighbors and family for death, why should anyone on this site believe that such a person wouldn’t dox everyone here at the first opportunity?
None of this is a reply to what I said, really.
I agree with everything you just said in the first paragraph. I’m talking about making any sort of organized preparations before taking action to resist or anything. That didn’t happen, so the acceleration of the hate and violence was worsened with no viable way to see any benefit. Kirk was a fascist and I’m glad he’s dead so we don’t have to hear him anymore with his fascist bullshit. But that doesn’t make it any less dangerous that he was killed without any way for the vulnerable in the US to defend themselves. The killer would’ve done at least some benefit by doing disorganized mutual aid.
The second paragraph also has nothing to do with what I said. This person didn’t “reach out to fascists to mark their friend for death,” that he would be killed for it was set in stone pretty early on. And I’m not speaking about doing something for ones own benefit, Im talking about being willing to throw away someone working against a greater goal (who knows if that’s this case? Above we were already talking in hypotheticals, so I’m still doing that).