• MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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        I mean, it’s probably true. Those tapes almost certainly exist and Putin has means to get them. But also, yeah, almost certain is not a fact. This is one of those cases where citing can only reduce the credibility of a statement by pretending there needs to be something more definitive than, “well, obviously.”

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          There were at least 3 beyond highly likely sources for the concealed tapes:

          Seeing how Putin is very adept at working in shaded circles it’s very reasonable to assume he now is in possession of a copy.
          Not even unthinkable that epstein sold/gave putin a copy himself when he went there when Trump also had regular personal dealings in moscow.

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            There’s a much simpler way, Trump has been visiting Russia since the 80s. Their government could have just set it up when he was over there and filmed it.

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            If Putin would control Trump then the billionaires would force an impeachement. They wouldn’t let Russia and China take their power.

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          Yes actually, I would fucking love a source — finally something that can be used to nail his ass to an upside down cross.

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          No. But if we are going to talk about Russia having tapes of trump again 9 years after the last time, I’d like more concrete sources than a shitposting sub, or a Steel Dossier.